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Hey the rules are as the rules are. Just because I think they're stupid doesn't mean they shouldn't be followed. With the rules as they are, considering BOTH the short and long programs the Russian's won fare and square. Anybody who doesn't like it just being obsessive.

With the rules as they are, considering BOTH the short and long programs the Russian's won fare and square. Anybody who doesn't like it just being obsessive.

Really? The rules permit judges to score higher for teams they like, or for political reasons? They allow them to swap scores with other judges? What was that judge's oath thing in the opening ceremony about then? These are the allegations here you know. You can't just assume it didn't happen.

Hey the rules are as the rules are.,

You mean there is a rule written down somewhere that you can't skate a previous program, or that you shouldn't wear gray, or you have to be a Russian to win gold? That last one seems plausible.

I have to disagree about the overall impression of the Russian long program. Their short was outstanding. In the long, yes, they had very nice flow between the jumps and other elements - which is a BIG point with me in ballroom as well, my area of expertise.

However, the step-out of the initial side by side jump, as well has Elena hanging on to some of her throw landings by her toenails, as well as their general tightness do not, IMO, result in a gold medal performance, esp. when compared against a clean performance by the Canadians. They made no similar errors, and clearly skated the superior routine in the longs.

I didn't have a dog in this race before the comp. I was a huge fan of G&G, and don't carry a grudge against Russian teams. If they're better, they're better. In this case, they weren't. It's not the Russians' fault - they just skated their routine, and after that, it's out of their hands. Because of the intrusion of real life this skating season, I have also missed all the back stories about the teams. So, I went into this one with a clean slate.

Sale and Pelletier were in The Zone - the Russians weren't.

With the rules as they are, considering BOTH the short and long programs the Russian's won fare and square. Anybody who doesn't like it just being obsessive

Obessive? Costas reports an admission by the French judge seen on television by many here, not just myself who reported this thread last night: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/626879/posts?page=1,100

There are serious allegations of collusion between judges, and Costas reports that the French judge admitted it! Also, in a VERY rare scene, several JUDGES APPROACHED reporters within minutes of the conclusion of the competition to report suspected abuse, collusion, bribery among their own panel!

So you think being angered by collusion is obsessive? You really do have thick, rosy glasses.