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To: Spar;Fusion; vooch; spar; Bluester; Travis Mcgee; Joan;hoplite
Spar

The NATO/ U.S. reaction in Kosovo despite the U.S. Congress's vote to not take military action could have resulted in another Rwanda. A show of GRIT on the part of Clinton to intervene and not have a repeat of Rwanda. You forgot to mention that the President of the United States has the power of a Veto in regards to Congress's vote and exercised that power. If he acted illegally why was he not impeached???? A show of GRIT and the ability to take the bull by the horns and to act on it because of what happened in Rwanda. This intervention into Kosovo in my opinion has saved countless amount of lives from the eventual civil war that would have taken place and it would have been another Bosnia. I was one of the first from my part of the world to enter Kosovo. It would have been a mess but of course you have far more experience sitting there in good old California with your finger on the pulse while reading left wing magazines. Put yourself in Clinton's position. Morally and politically could you have lived with yourself knowing that you could have acted while seeing thousands of dead in Kosovo on both sides i.e. just like what happened in Rwanda and Bosnia. NATO intervention was a very necessary thing.

NATO intervention i.e. the first NATO Air strikes on Bosnian Serb positions around Gorazde in Bosnia (1994) saved the lives of approx. 45 thousand Bosnian Muslim civilians (HUMAN BEINGS)who for the most part defending themselves with hunting rifles. Gorazde was targeted to be over run by the Bosnian Serb Army who brought a lot of armor. Could have been another Srebrenica but worse.

40 posted on 02/13/2002 6:16:47 AM PST by Wraith
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To: Wraith;Ninachka;Bluester;Vooch;Spar;Stavka2;Ranger; Black Jade;Incorrigible
You make one of the stronger arguments for American intervention in Kosovo here. There is no doubt that many lives were saved by the NATO war on Yugoslavia, however since they were Albanian (faux Muslims) you will be hard pressed to convince the Slavic apologists that this cause was worthwhile. Sort of like a European Dred Scott three-fifths kind of thing.

The airstrikes around Gorazde saved lives too. However the pro-Serb elements don't want to hear this either...

You continue to pound Vooch and Spar (is this Pericles I am advised?) with your insight garnered from your tour of Hell in Kosovo. Both these guys are solid posters that are very well informed about the Balkans and do excellent jobs of pushing their agendas -- yet you continue to outpoint them with your scientific demonstration of fact delivery versus hypothesis failed.

With that said, I must say though you continue to fail to appreciate or understand the Kosovo Liberation Army and its valiant and historical role in turning back the thousand year tide of Slavic expansionism. Mother Russia and her satelite states are dead -- destroyed by the United States of America and her KLA and Chechen allies. Now with the "War on terror" expanding, the USA has bigger fish to fry and the policing of the Balkans and destruction of the United Nations are left to the KLA.

Currently the K-6 wing of the KLA is charged with the elimination of aproximately 120 individuals in Kosovo province. The majority of these are supporters of your beloved Rugova and the LDK, another thirty or so are Serbs still in the province, and another twenty perhaps are European Union NGO members who are causing trouble now.

The Kosovo Liberation Army will neutralise these revisionist elements so that Kosovo province can remain free of Slavic tyranny and the hegemonism of Greater Albania can be solidified. War is coming to Macedonia with the aggressive defence of the Tetovo Republic and the liberation of the Presevo Valley. One would think that a classic "Night of the Long Knives" would be more efficient than the current plan of removing a half dozen a month.

So please, Wraith, if the KLA must take down enemies of the state with the garrotte, 9mm pistol, or remote controlled bomb -- let us applaud these veteran descendents of Ancient Illyria that do this dark work instead of condemning them. "Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice," as we all know...

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Ninachka

Hey pal, you're way out of your league in debating Bluester. Instead of whining about how America decides to conduct its foreign policy in supporting the glorious Kosovo Liberation Army -- conquerers of Yugoslavia and defenders of the Tetovo Republic -- he/she fights for freedom in the independent land of Slovenia.

Some day Slovenia will be attacked by the New World Order, pan-Slavic League, or the European Union. Bluester will be there in the forefront like his/her Hungarian brothers and sisters in 1956 or Czech cousins in 1968. Then Bluester will lead other like minded Slovenians in manning the barricades and tossing the Molotov Cocktails until the forces of freedom can arrive to lend a hand and turn back the tide of tyranny...

You on the other hand will still still be whining and moaning when the blue berets of the United Nations come knocking on your door to register you as a subject of the New World Order. When you start your left wing rants they will kindly direct you to the nearest filtration camp where some nice Russian thugs just released from prison will take over you reeducation like they do in Chechnya now...

The whole world at war now son, if you can't recognize that KLA fighters and Chechen nationalists kill the enemies of all free men -- then perhaps you are not one...

And yeah, Brit Hume is pretty cool. Plays a mean game of tennis too ...

Keep on rockin' in the free world...

The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.

47 posted on 02/13/2002 9:31:55 AM PST by Fusion
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To: Wraith
NATO intervention i.e. the first NATO Air strikes on Bosnian Serb positions around Gorazde in Bosnia (1994) saved the lives of approx. 45 thousand Bosnian Muslim civilians (HUMAN BEINGS)who for the most part defending themselves with hunting rifles. Gorazde was targeted to be over run by the Bosnian Serb Army who brought a lot of armor. Could have been another Srebrenica but worse.

Right, Gorazde, the most pro-Nazi town in southeastern Bosnia where thousands of Serbs were killed in WWII. After cleansing the town of ethnic Serbs in 1992, the Bosnian Muslims in Gorazde did not observe a single ceasefire right up to the end of the war in Bosnia. These killers, armed with much more than "hunting rifles" actually robbed Ukrainian and British "peacekeepers" not only of their weapons but their uniforms as well. Then they went on to use their "safe havens", dressed up in NATO uniforms to attack isolated Serb farms. The exact same things happened in Srebrenica, where the UN lied for two years that it had disarmed the Muslims in the town.

Wraith, if you don't know what happened in Bosnia, don't feel obliged to write about it, lest you get accused of lying.

52 posted on 02/13/2002 12:18:58 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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