Posted on 01/17/2002 8:04:06 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
A right-left split is straining the Republican big tent as the party's national committee prepares to meet in Texas this week.
Committee sources said that party officials have been maneuvering to keep ideological tensions from erupting into a public dispute in Austin.
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"LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," from the moment of conception till natural death. In that order.
I am with you 100%! As President Bush has stated so many times, you have to change people's hearts and until that day arrives, abortion is legal in this Country! I want someone to can raise a ton of money for our races that are contested. We need to take back the Senate and keep the House!
Get real. Us Pro-Lifers don't have the numbers yet to dominate the party AND win nat'l elections without a coalition that includes others with different views. So sometimes compromises have to be made. The key is compromising where it doesn't advance the Pro-Choice cause. This isn't a Supreme Court nomination, nor a Congressional one. Its a fundraiser. We're likely not going to overturn Roe-v-Wade without A GOP controlled Senate and certainly not without a GOP President.
There are too many idealists in the Pro-Life movement who scream, pout, and throw a temper-tantrum every time they don't get 100% of what they want. Politics is strategic, involving compromise and coalition building to reach our goals. Should we be concerned and discussing this man's background? Sure. But these juvenile threats to leave the party every time the impossible isn't accomplished yesterday just weaken our effort. Please explain to me how doing the tearful third-party boycott routine that elects Democrats to the Presidency and gives control of the House and Senate to them will overturn Roe-v-Wade.
Why I continue to stay with a political party that every 2 years finds a new and exciting way to help itself.."Self-Destruct" and lose elections is beyond me! The only thing I can think of is that the alternatives are worse!
The GOP stands ready to jettison the pro-life plank. Every move they make telegraphs their plans.
What are social conservatives going to do when, within the next 6 years, the GOP goes neutral on abortion?
So what's stopping other Republicans from demanding that you be tossed out of the party based on your profound disagreement with 1 or more of the planks of the platform?
That is exactly what you are asking from us vis a vis Eisenberg. You don't see any hypocrisy in this?
I like Robert Lederman's comment ( here):
"Was Lincoln wrong when he said you can't fool all the people all the time? In an election with more tricks than a three card monte game, the biggest trick of all may have been getting millions of pro-lifers to vote for GW Bush - a candidate whose family has been in the vanguard of the pro-abortion and eugenics movements since the early years of the 20th Century."
This man has no control of over appointment of Supreme Court justices -- he is fundraiser. If we follow your logic, then there will no pro-life justices as the democRATS will contol the Senate thanks to one issue folks!
Abortion is legal and will not be changed until more anti-abortion Republicans are elected. And we cannot get our candidates elected without money!
And all you anti-abortion folks, don't bother to flame me -- I stated facts -- don't like them myself, but it is the fact. If one-issue folks sit on their hands and don't vote for Republicans, then you can kiss goodbye any chance of getting even partial birth abortion banned and any anti-abortion Supreme Court nominee of President Bush will not get approved by the Senate!
He will also have great influence as to who the major donors will be. And if Eisenberg brings in even a few big pro-gay, pro-abort donors, this will certainly result in a further tilt to the left.
"We gotta keep these new Eisenberg donors happy."
Can I assume from this you are pro-abort?
I never said I dissent on other GOP planks. You have no idea where I stand on them. All I said was
I don't give a damn about the rest, because if you can't get it right on the issue of life, nothing else matters...
I do have the right to demand that the GOP stand firm in opposing abortion, the shame of this nation, and the destruction of our Constitution and thus our Republic.
Seems, IMHO, that the GOP needs to go back and study it's roots...founded by abolitionists (ref: "Liberty" in above quote) Charles Sumner and Thaddeus Stevens. They were known as Radical Republicans for this point of view. I.e., they had kahonees!!
SOURCE: Back to Basics for the Republican Party by Michael Zak
- registered Independent (formerly 'R') in WV
BTW: David Tyson is no longer state GOP chairman - believe it is now Kris Warner
"Who cares, as long as he can raise a lot of money," respond the clintonized Republicans.
Wow, some spectrum. Why it ranges from moderate/left, to left/moderate.
So... What do we call a "compromise" that has republicans abandoning a gubernatorial election and throwing it to the democrats because the candidate wasn't one of the country club insiders? Certainly the number one plank of any party's platform is to get it's members elected." Who was the RNC or the NJRC working for when they withheld money, endorsements, advertising, and information until the last weeks of the campaign and it became practically a criminal embarrassment for them?
Bush wants a RINO to raise funds? Hey... everybody's doing it, as much as it sucks. Bush wants a NJ RINO to raise funds for him? Immediately, I'm thinking that Bush is rewarding the guy for sinking Schundler. If this is the case... time will tell. The higher they go in the approval ratings... the farther they fall.
This is a mighty big (and incorrect) assumption on your part.
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