Black pledge draws angry e-mails

NewsOK.com ^ | January 16, 2002 | Randy Ellis

[Eaker]

Bump for later.

Eaker

[kjam22]

for those of you not in OKC.... this article did run on the front page of the paper this morning.

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

That's different. That's Jamaica. You are talking about Salassi, the Lion of Judah.

[CyberCowboy777]

Did they print the pledge?

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

Black Muslim flag in the 60s.

It is not a muslim flag.

[Spiff]

And I think it may have been the 'Black Panthers' or Black Muslim flag in the 60s.

No - you're not paying attention. Already posted in this thread or in a thread linked on this thread is the origin of the flag. And the link to the Kwanzaa Information Center of melanet has a description of its origin.

It was invented around 1920 by racist, black nationalist (the father of the movement) Marcus Garvey.

While it may have been used by several black nationalist gangs in the 60's (Black Panthers and US) it was not invented by them.

[kjam22]

Yes they did. It was on the front page of the paper... but the pledge did not make it into the website. Randy Ellis (article author) responded to me that he regretted that the editors did not put the pledge in the web site version of the article.

[CyberCowboy777]

Very Good, thanks for the update.

[CyberCowboy777]

Let us know of any other coverage you see

Bump

[Chad Fairbanks]

Yes... I couldn't remember that name - However, the guy who came up with the flag spent many many years in Jamaica, after being deported from this country... His Pan-African movement helped launched the Rastafarian movement... :0)

[JulieRNR21]

While it may have been used by several black nationalist gangs in the 60's (Black Panthers and US) it was not invented by them.

Here's what I posted: And I think it may have been the 'Black Panthers' or Black Muslim flag in the 60s.

Nowhere did I state that they 'invented' it.

[RightOnline]

Well, this is an easy one. Gloria Griffin's a drooling idiot; all too typical of public school educrats these days (doubt that?? take a trip down to your local high school / middle school / elementary school sometime; spend a day..............it'll floor you)

[kjam22]

Local News Station interviewed the elementary principle this morning. Big time softball session. The worst I have ever seen. What is worse is that I know the lady that did the interview real well. (She is in my Sunday School class at church). Nice lady... but bad interviewer. I'm going to tell her Sunday that she's no Bill O'Reilly

Principle contended that it wasn't racist or separatist in any way. Explained that a middle school teacher and his class did some research on the flag last year and then wrote this pledge. So, it came from the students you know. Also explained that the district was 99% black.... (like that should make a difference) Racism is Racism.

She also said that the superintendent was out of town and would be meeting with the school board when she got back to sit down and discuss this issue. The only decent question the interviewer asked was if there was a chance it would be removed from the web site.... which the lady side stepped calmly.

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

Marcus Garvey?? Probably, but he was a follower of Booker T Washington.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Perhaps at first he was, but after his arrests and deportation back to Jamaica, he changed somehow... and not for the better... at least that is my opinion based upon reading about him...

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

Black communists hated him.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Well, I suppose that's one good thing in his favour... ;0) Being hated by communists isn't always a bad thing... unless the commies are Stalinists, and you are a Trotskyite... ;0)

[CyberCowboy777]

Thanks for the update.

I think that if people read the Pledge they will see the truth. We will keep pounding. Again, thanks for the update!

[Come get it]

FR is POWERFUL! YEEEEEAH!

This lady posts something that is racially charged and NO ONE at the school knows its origin????? Talk about stupidity at its best.

She also focuses on the words "love, freedom, and determination", when the pledge says clearly "BLACK love, BLACK freedom, and BLACK determination".

She must believe that everyone else is just plain stupid. She is insulting our intelligence. She knows EXACTLY what that pledge means.

[Spiff]

She really does thing we're that stupid...

She says the Black Nationalist Pledge and the Negro National Anthem were brought up by students from a research project. Well, that may be so, but why was it posted on the page that had the real Pledge of Allegiance as well as the School Song and other things implying that it was a regular part of the school day? Why was it printed in the Student Planner that the students use throughout the school day if they weren't to look at it or recite it regularly?

I'm sorry - she's full of it and she's been caught.