[DataDink]

I copied (and highlighted some of the information on the www.tpc.org website. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the system in the #3 position kick M$ butt in both the tpmC and Price/tpmC categories? It nearly doubles the number of transactions for $.07 cents less per transaction. As a matter of fact, there aren't any M$ entries until the 7th position.

This may be good for the M$ PR machine and for the blind followers of Uncle Bill, but DO YOUR RESEARCH! M$ is not what it always the best choice. I run Linux and ME at home. Solaris 8, Win98SE, Win2K Pro, Win2K Advanced Server, NT 4.0 Server and XP at work. You got to look at what you need and make the wise choice.

Semper Fi,
DataDink

Rank	Company	System	tpmC	Price/tpmC	System Availability	Database	Operating System	TP Monitor	Date Submitted
1		PRIMEPOWER 2000 c/s w 66 Front-Ends	455,818	28.58 US $	02/28/02	SymfoWARE Server Enterp. Ed. VLM 3.0	Sun Solaris 8	BEA Tuxedo 6.5 CFS	08/28/01
2		HP 9000 Superdome Enterprise Server	389,434	21.24 US $	05/15/02	Oracle 9i Database Enterprise Edition	HP UX 11.i 64-bit	BEA Tuxedo 6.4	12/21/01
3		Compaq AlphaServer GS320	230,533	44.62 US $	07/30/01	Oracle 9i Database Enterprise Edition	Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1	Compaq DB Web Connector V1.1	06/18/01
4		PRIMEPOWER 2000 c/s w /32 Front Ends	222,772	43.42 US $	06/30/01	SymfoWARE Server Enterp. Ed. VLM 3.0	Sun Solaris 8	BEA Tuxedo 6.4 CFS	04/13/01
5		IBM eServer pSeries 680 Model 7017-S85	220,807	34.18 US $	04/13/01	Oracle8 Enterprise Edition v8.1.7.1	IBM AIX 4.3.3	Webshpere App. Server Ent. Edition V.3.0	03/20/01
***		Bull Escala EPC2450 c/s	220,807	34.67 US $	05/28/01	Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition v. 8.1.7	IBM AIX 4.3.3	Webshpere App. Server Ent. Edition V.3.0	05/28/01
6		HP 9000 Superdome Enterprise Server	197,024	32.13 US $	05/01/01	Oracle8 Enterprise Edition v8.1.7.1	HP UX 11.i 64-bit	BEA Tuxedo 6.4	12/21/01
7		Unisys e-@ction Enterprise Server ES7000	165,218	21.33 US $	03/10/02	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Datacenter Server Limited Edition	Microsoft COM+	11/11/01
8		IBM eServer iSeries 400 Model 840-2420-001	163,775	51.58 US $	12/15/00	IBM DB2 for AS/400 V4 R5	IBM OS/400 V4 R5	BEA Tuxedo 6.4	03/19/01
9		Compaq AlphaServer GS320 Model 6/731	155,179	52.88 US $	02/02/01	Oracle 8i Enterprise Edition v. 8.1.7	Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1	Compaq DB Web Connector	04/03/01
10		IBM eServer iSeries 400 Model 840-2420	152,346	44.52 US $	09/15/00	IBM DB2 for AS/400 V4 R5	IBM OS/400 V4 R5	BEA Tuxedo 6.4	03/19/01

*** - Duplicate results are shown with an asterisk (*) in the Rank column. Click here for more information about duplicates.

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[Bush2000]

Wrong. You're looking at Non-clustered performance numbers without regard for price. Sure, I can throw boundless-priced system at the problem and beat the $1M systems. But that's not the point. The point is to strike a balance between price and performance. And that is where the Windows/SQL Server 2000 systems shine. You can find these numbers at http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_price_perf_results.asp?resulttype=noncluster. Let me know if this hurts your brains too much ... and I'll use small words so that you might understand...

Top Ten TPC-C by Price/Performance Version 5 Results

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Rank	Company	System	tpmC	Price/tpmC	System Availability	Database	Operating System	TP Monitor	Date Submitted	Cluster
1		PowerEdge 2500/1.13/1P	11,314	4.38 US $	12/14/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Standard Edt.	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	12/14/01	N
2		IBM e(logo) xSeries 250 c/s	15,533	4.67 US $	11/05/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Standard Edt.	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	11/05/01	N
3		PowerEdge 2500/1.13/1P	11,320	4.70 US $	10/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Standard Edt.	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	10/31/01	N
4		IBM eServer xSeries 220 c/s	9,112	4.76 US $	10/16/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Standard Edt.	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	10/16/01	N
5		ProLiant ML530-X1000-1P	9,347	4.77 US $	09/25/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	09/25/01	N
6		IBM e(logo) xSeries 350 c/s	20,422	5.39 US $	10/01/01	Microsoft SQL 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	10/01/01	N
7		ProLiant ML570-700 3P	20,207	5.64 US $	09/26/00	Microsoft SQL 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Server	Microsoft COM+	07/27/01	N
8		ProLiant ML570 6/900-4P	37,100	6.36 US $	11/12/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	11/12/01	N
9		PowerEdge 6400	20,331	6.46 US $	02/02/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000	Microsoft COM+	03/19/01	N
10		PowerEdge 6450	20,320	6.62 US $	02/02/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000	Microsoft COM+	03/19/01	N

[Bush2000]

Note these results. This is where it gets really bad for the Solaris and Oracle sales guys. You see, the clustered configuration offered by Compaq did 709,220 transactions per minute at a $14.96 cost. That's almost twice the number of transactions as the non-clustered Fujitsu/Solaris/SymfoWARE combination (455,818) at half the cost ($28.58). Do you understand what this means? It means that clustered configs -- scaling out as opposed to scaling up -- kick the crap out of non-clustered configs. The TCO is better. The cost is lower. This is the reason that Sun and Oracle guys are having a tough time explaining to their customers why they should pay twice as much and get half the performance.

Look, I understand why a lot of you don't want to rock the boat. You're comfortable with Unix. There's a certain bigotry against MS in some IT shops. You're afraid of getting fired for promoting a solution that goes against the grain of your pencil-neck bosses. Plus, it's not your money anyway. But, frankly, if you ignore these results, you only have yourselves to blame for paying more and getting less.

Top Ten Clustered TPC-C by Performance Version 5 Results

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Rank	Company	System	tpmC	Price/tpmC	System Availability	Database	Operating System	TP Monitor	Date Submitted
1		ProLiant DL760-900-256P	709,220	14.96 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01
2		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	688,220	22.58 US $	05/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/10/01
3		ProLiant DL760-900-192P	567,882	14.04 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01
4		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	440,879	19.35 US $	12/07/00	IBM DB2 UDB 7.1	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	04/11/01
5		ProLiant DL760-900-128P	410,769	13.02 US $	10/15/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition	Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server	Microsoft COM+	09/19/01
6		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	363,129	21.80 US $	05/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/10/01
7		IBM eServer xSeries 370	136,766	16.93 US $	09/20/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/24/01
8		IBM e(logo) xSeries 370 c/s	121,319	18.97 US $	05/31/01	Microsoft SQL Server 2000	Microsoft Windows 2000 Datacenter Server	Microsoft COM+	04/10/01