[Dominic Harr]

I wonder if they manipulated this like they manipulate the polls

More Free MS Adverstising? Is FR now the MS newswire?

This is pure propaganda. He couldn't get away with this on any technical board, where people would laugh him out of the joint.

A look at the Systems Tested in that test show that no high-end Sun machines were tested, and the MS machine that got the top results -- a Compaq ProLiant DL760-900-256P -- costs $10,603,803. The best IBM machine they tested Oracle on was an HP 9000 Superdome Enterprise Server -- costs $8,272,786.

Leave out Suns, spend $2.4 mil more on the Windows box, and don't even test Linux.

I especially love giving MS $2.4 mil more in hardware. Now *that* is a fine way to cook the books.

[Bush2000]

A look at the Systems Tested in that test show that no high-end Sun machines were tested

Do you not understand what you're looking at? The cost per transaction includes the cost of the hardware, itself. Even if Sun had less expensive hardware, Microsoft still beat it on a cost per transaction basis. That is even more pathetic.

[markn]

Leave out Suns, spend $2.4 mil more on the Windows box, and don't even test Linux.

And if the benchmark wouldn't have resulted in their marketing-favour (like i believe happened with the SQL Server-Win2k vs. SQL Server-WinNT) they would have suppressed the benchmark and threaten to sue anyone who dares to use it.

[eccl1212]

Very well put.

I notice that Mr. Bush (the freeper) has clearly identified him or herself as a Microsoft Groupie aka employee and bona fide member of the gate's groupie's squad.

That MS would tout the results on a cheated test as being a fair benchmark for their software, while exempting every other highly competitive system on EQUALLY financed and equipped hardware; I find quite laughable; and very, very typical for MS. Liars and cheats.

Thanks for pointing it out and reminding us all why we need to keep the often better, faster, more accurate and economical systems at the forefront of our thinking and planning. That anyone at MS would honestly think that the high-level, more advanced caliber business/technology system purchasers would ever consider their systems after such blatant and apparent test manipulation and apparent misrepresentation says a lot about their product.

It truly smacks of the disdain and disrespect the entire organization has for the intelligence of the folks who MIGHT have otherwise considered their offerings in the near future.

They truly believe "there's a sucker born every minute." That is why they treat us so. And the pandering self-promotion of their product by employees on this website, in this non-commercial venue, where JIM has repeatedly asked us NOT to sell or promote our business or products; shows a real disrespect for this forum as well.

Since linux obviously sucks to the MS crowd, yet is a free system; perhaps jim should counter-promote their free os's and software offerings on this site; being that this is SUPPOSED to be a no sales, no profit venue. I for one am a little tired of the incessant "RAH RAH microslop..."

That is many of us get a little sick of it every day. Thanks for reminding me why.