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To: nopardons
About that 'tax reduction'.....seems like when he was just Candidate Bush he was talking about $1.6 or $1.65 billion and how 'that was about just right'....matter of fact, I believe he used those words, or awful darn close when he addressed the Congress. And lo and behold, he caved....the Congress worked up a plan for something like $1.35 billion over 11 YEARS. Course he was only elected for 4 years; and it is a known fact that one Congress can undo what the prior Congress has done.

You wrote: " The less government has to spend, the less they will, with this president"....yeah, right, we've seen government time after time 'not' spend money they don't have, right! That's exactly why we don't have a national debt running in the trillions, right?

You wrote: " The president has already said that his plan / taxes won't be raised ; he'll veto anything they try to do in the future"....well, first of all he said they wouldn't NOT raise them over his dead body! So his ass is covered by letting taxes go up while he is alive!

And why should anyone believe a known liar? He pulled that old "I won't raise taxes' horsepockey in Texas....signed a pledge that he wouldn't--specifically mentioning the Sales Tax---and man oh man oh man....soon as he could, he proposed an increase in the sales tax to the Texas Legislature....Texicans were saved from that increase by , gulp, Democratic legislators!! Oh, I know...there was lots of good reasons for suggesting an increase and his heart really wasn't in it, but yada yada yada yada yada.

I am fully aware of what incrementalism is....I am also aware that incrementalism does not work for the right side of the aisle--it is wishful thinking, dreaming on your part! The GOP hasn't a clue as to how it's done--all they can do is whimper as the Demoncraps beat the daylights out of them.

Draw yourself a friggin diagram with the figures I gave you above....and figure out when there will be an incremental move to the right! It ain't going to happen! The Demoncraps ALWAYS demand so much more than is reasonable and the GOP offers a small compromise over the existing base--because the Demoncraps play hardball, the GOP ups their offer, the Dems melt a wee bit, the GOP offers to give up even a little more, and the Dems act like they are really gonna compromise by accepting this. Actually they are rolling in the aisles laughing their asses off all the way to the bank at the way they suckered the Republicans yet again!!!! What part of the bastids always stepping to the left do you not understand? Since when can you increase Education by some $8 billion dollars and call that an incremental step to the right?

Constitution? Surely you jest! Bush supporters are not interested in the Constitution! Whatever St. George wants is what you want.

Puleeze...."a president is not allowed? Joke, right....they usurp powers all the time, just like the congresscritters.....big whooooo! Lady, you live in a la la world if you think the President of the United States can not release documents to congressional committees, or if you think he can't order the DOJ to investigate/prosecute as necessary.....

What is possible only exists because people make it happen. The President can sign a bill for an education department while not anywhere in the Constitution is the word education even mentioned....and you offer me he can't do it because he is not permitted or allowed to do so under the Constitution.

539 posted on 01/07/2002 8:12:39 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
Draw yourself a friggin diagram with the figures I gave you above....and figure out when there will be an incremental move to the right! It ain't going to happen! The Demoncraps ALWAYS demand so much more than is reasonable and the GOP offers a small compromise over the existing base--because the Demoncraps play hardball, the GOP ups their offer, the Dems melt a wee bit, the GOP offers to give up even a little more, and the Dems act like they are really gonna compromise by accepting this. Actually they are rolling in the aisles laughing their asses off all the way to the bank at the way they suckered the Republicans yet again!!!! What part of the bastids always stepping to the left do you not understand? Since when can you increase Education by some $8 billion dollars and call that an incremental step to the right

excellent post, rowdee!! the whole friggin' thing! ;)

559 posted on 01/08/2002 7:52:40 PM PST by christine
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To: Rowdee
Actually they [Democrats] are rolling in the aisles laughing their asses off all the way to the bank at the way they suckered the Republicans yet again!!!!

Your post is excellent! I concur completely, however, with one small exception. The Republicans are NOT getting suckered. They are part of the one-party MONOPOLY that has control of our goverment, and with an ultimate Leftist agenda. I am not referring to "conservatives," but instead to the Republican Party which does not have a true Conservative agenda. Republicans occasionally talk a good game, but they govern as moderate Leftists, in contrast to radical Leftists, as do many Democrats.

561 posted on 01/08/2002 8:08:38 PM PST by BillofRights
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