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To: sinkspur
I refer to the Roman Catholic Church in union with Pope John Paul II, not the schismatic Society of St. Pius X, which is a sect unto itself and is outside the Roman Catholic Church.

Now, now, sinkspur. You know that's not true. It is you who are outside the Roman Catholic Church. How old is your new "church" - about 40 years old, I think. Mine is around 2,000 years old, unchanged and unchangeable. You must miss that dignity and grace.

97 posted on 01/03/2002 11:06:49 AM PST by Orual
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To: Orual
Now, now, sinkspur. You know that's not true. It is you who are outside the Roman Catholic Church.

You're delusional on this subject.

The SSPX is OUTSIDE the Roman Catholic Church because it is NOT in union with the Pope.

Convolutions, shadings, distortions, protestations notwithstanding.

98 posted on 01/03/2002 11:11:58 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Orual
>>>>It is you who are outside the Roman Catholic Church. How old is your new "church" - about 40 years old, I think. Mine is around 2,000 years old, unchanged and unchangeable.

Last time I check sinkspur's Bishop wasn't excommunicated. Yours was.

Its kind of funny that you accuse him of being in a "new" church only 40 years old, when the illicit order you follow around, and which makes up your entire little "church" was founded in 1970-71. Something about people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones comes to mind.

patent

106 posted on 01/03/2002 11:21:52 AM PST by patent
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To: Orual
You must miss that dignity and grace.

As will you and your fellow schismatics soon enough. Anytime a sect attempt to seize a charism of the Church for itself it is not long before it becomes distorted. Those who sought to use the Bible as their own and not as a document of the Church distorted its meaning. Just the same in seizing upon the traditional mass which belongs to the Church it will become distorted.

109 posted on 01/03/2002 11:24:17 AM PST by st.smith
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To: Orual
How old is your new "church" - about 40 years old, I think. Mine is around 2,000 years old, unchanged and unchangeable.

Since when do claims of antiquity help one determine who is right?

If that is the case, the Jews of 2000 years ago had every right to point at the new followers of Jesus and tell them they were a bunch of upstarts.

121 posted on 01/03/2002 12:05:35 PM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: Orual
How old is your new "church" - about 40 years old, I think. Mine is around 2,000 years old, unchanged and unchangeable.

Since when do claims of antiquity help one determine who is right?

If that is the case, the Jews of 2000 years ago had every right to point at the new followers of Jesus and tell them they were a bunch of upstarts.

122 posted on 01/03/2002 12:06:59 PM PST by CubicleGuy
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