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To: WhowasGustavusFox
Oh come on, Pea, when it comes to misleading people I have a lot to learn from you. I was just pointing out to my fellow Jayhawk rwfromkansas that the actions he condemned Lincoln for were duplicated by Davis. Neither freed the slaves in their own territories. Both suspended habeas corpus, and I'll add that Lincoln's actions in 1861 were never found unconstitutional regardless of what you say, and remain as legal as Davis' actions were. The south began conscription a year before the North and relied on conscripts for substantial part of their army. The Davis government proposed income taxes in excess of 25%, far in excess of anything Lincoln's administration imposed and well in excess of the percentage of tariffs paid for by the southerners prior to the war. As for you snide comments on Sherman, he seized food and supplies from civilians down south as Lee did from civilians up north. But Davis forced his own people to levy a percentage of their agricultural produce and forced them to provide slave labor with little or no compensation. Lincoln never did that to the Northern people. So go peddle your misinformation somewhere else.
88 posted on 12/16/2001 1:06:29 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Non, you must have taken your history lessions from Fred Astaire.

First you said this:

Since Jefferson Davis proposed income taxes at levels far above those up north

and when I reminded you that

The Confederate bill that passed levied a 1% tax..., and 2% on all additional income, and in 1862, Abraham Lincoln signed a bill that imposed a 3% tax ... and a 5% tax. The bill was amended in 1864 to levy a tax of 5%..., a 7.5%, and a 10% tax on everything higher.

Then you have the audacity to say:

The Davis government proposed income taxes in excess of 25% (which is a change in your original contention, that it was Mr. Davis making these tax proposals, and now shifting to the "Davis government". Your origninal assertion was a criticism of Davis; now you change your tune to keep from being wrong), far in excess of anything Lincoln's administration imposed.

Oh come on, Pea, when it comes to misleading people I have a lot to learn from you

So go peddle your misinformation somewhere else.

Then you quote:

The Confederate bill that was finally passed on 24 April 1863, called for a milder graduated income tax exempting wages to $1,000, and levying a 1% tax on the first $15,000 over the exemption and 2% on all additional income. (Which was a convoluted method of admitting that you were wrong, hoping that no one would notice).

And finally you say this:

I realize that southern school systems are constantly ranked at the bottom of national averages but even they should realize that figures like 14% and 24% are greater than 5% and 10%. Looks like you are the one who is wrong. Shocking.

Seems as if your history class and dancing lessions were confusing to you.

Be glad that WhiskeyPapa is on your side, or else he would say "you lie like a dog".

267 posted on 12/19/2001 2:45:42 PM PST by WhowasGustavusFox
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