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"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." - Lincoln, 8/17/1858. So much for BEFORE the war, but what about DURING the war?
"You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exists between almost any other two races." - Lincoln, 8/1862
Read it and weep, Walt, cause those are the written statements of Lincoln.

Oh my goodness, am I now supposed to throw up my hands and say, "Jiminy Crcket, I've been wrong all along!"

That's your job, as the record clearly shows.

"But to be plain, you are dissatisfied with me about the negro. Quite likely there is a difference of opinion between you and myself upon that subject. I certainly wish that all men could be free, while I suppose that you do not."

8/23/63

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel."

4/4/64

"it is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers."

4/11/65

And think about this:

"Viewed from the genuine abolition ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull and indifferent; but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical and determined."

--Frederick Douglass

Your position will not stand the most cursory glance at the complete record.

Walt

Oh my goodness, am I now supposed to throw up my hands and say, "Jiminy Crcket, I've been wrong all along!"

It would not be unreasonable for you to do so considering that you have been holding out the historically contradicted assertion that Lincoln was, all his life, unwaveringly anti-slavery and pro freedom for black people.

That's a nice quote and all, but still it's doesn't get you past the quote where he says that blacks and whites can never be equal, and that he is committed to ensuring that whites maintain the superior position in the relationship.

Your position will not stand the most cursory glance at the complete record.

Quod gratis asseritur gratis negatur. Consider your above statement negated. Walt