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To: ElkGroveDan
Sigh...yeah, Simon's a great guy, and not perceived as being as much to the right as say, Brett Schundler. Even if such criticsm of Schundler was not merited. But "demographics is destiny", dear soon-to-be-extinct CA conservatives. Davis is down in Mexico right now yapping about California and Mexico having "a common destiny". Yeah. Third world living conditions. But the point is - the swing voters ARE Mexicans in CA. And ain't no way they're going for El Primero Blanco NorteAmericano William Simon (unless he pronounces his name "seemoan").

Riordan is anathema to y'all, but he won - twice - in LA. And I agree that calling him a Republican, considering his policies - is absurd. But he could win. And it would be like Bloomberg in NYC: at least it would get the party points.

If that's not to your liking, I understand. And it might be reasonable to let Simon run and lose (he would), if only for exposure. But don't b.s. yourselves. Davis is down now, but unless he takes the hit for the coming budget deficit (which he can blame on Sept. 11th), or the power debacle, or killing 187 (the repugnants can't bring themselves to mention that), I don't see it. In the long run, Democrats don't blame him for any of that. And since they are the numerical majority, some of them would have to cross party lines to vote for the Republican for him to be elected. They WON'T unless they have a big problem with Davis.

26 posted on 12/03/2001 1:15:06 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
Sorry, but Riordan can't win. Few Democrats would vote for him ... after all, why vote Republican when they can have a liberal in their very own party?

Also, you're making the same mistake many other people make (so you're in good company!). Elections are not where the same people go to vote every two years and decide who they are going to vote for, Republican or Democrat. What matters is WHO decides to go to the polls. Riordan will not bring out people, particularly non-political conservatives who sat out in recent elections because there was nothing to get fired up about until March of 2000 and Prop. 22.

Simon CAN bring those people to the polls because he is an articulate conservative. Riordan can't. Riordan will get 38-40% of the vote and lose. Just like Lungren.

Sometimes, I think fine, let Riordan win the primary and I will be proven right. But I don't want to be proven right. I want to win, and that's why I want Bill Simon to be our nominee.

27 posted on 12/03/2001 1:25:03 PM PST by Gophack
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To: Regulator
Gosh if simply winning is important (forget beliefs and idealogy), why don't we as Republicans nominate Davis as our candidate. That way we would have a SURE winner and it would be much cheaper. He's more conservative than Riordan, and more importantly we would be on the winning side.

The fact is that Davis is vulnerable -- really vulnerable and it will take someone who can get out the Republican base FIRST, and then appeal across the board to other families. Californians are overtaxed, over regulated and dimayed over what the Dems have done to their state in recent years. Simon has a winning message.

Given a choice of Riordan or Davis Dems will vote for the tried and true liberal they know, and Republicans will stay home. The only way to win this November is with Bill Simon!

28 posted on 12/03/2001 1:31:30 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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