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THE DEMON IN THE FREEZER
New Yorker ^ | 7-12-99 | RICHARD PRESTON

Posted on 10/29/2001 12:44:48 PM PST by tallhappy

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To: Liberty Ship
An excellent link and analysis, thanks!

I was a young infectious diseases physician when Sencer was fired, the public health community has not recovered.

21 posted on 10/29/2001 2:55:21 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: vannrox
>>We have to act NOW!<<

I don't think we should publicize the progress we are making towards increased vaccine availability-because we may put Iraq in a use-it-or-lose it scenario.

I believe the vaccine will be shown (or already has been shown) to be effective at a 10:1 dilution.

It is an interesting exercise in human psychology, though, to wonder how we could simultaneously a) Permit retention of variola by the USA and USSR in recognition of its role as a bioweapon, and, b) Stop vaccination because variola had been "eliminated".

22 posted on 10/29/2001 2:59:47 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Oh my God!!!!!The pictures are unreal.

I have never seen anything so scary in my life. The panic that this would cause when splashed over network TV would shut down the country. And from what I read, it might be too late by then.

I hope that they are starting to manufacture more vaccine.

23 posted on 10/29/2001 4:29:14 PM PST by ThreeG
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To: tallhappy
Smallpox is pretty scary. I checked with some young 20-somethings I work with.

They were never vaccinated. I think the vaccinations stopped at least 21 years ago.

This is too much of a threat. Vaccination must be re-instituted on an emergency basis.

24 posted on 10/29/2001 4:30:23 PM PST by LibKill
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To: ThreeG
I have never seen anything so scary in my life.

I do not scare easily. This article did it. The thought of lying there, paralyzed yet feeling all of what it is doing until your guts come out in a blood slurry, unable to even put yourself out of it.

And the Russians and who-knows-else has or had tons of the stuff. Where is it now?

If some of this stuff gets loose, it is going to be very, very bad news.

25 posted on 10/29/2001 5:25:10 PM PST by Riley
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To: Jim Noble
Thanks for the response. It is just making me madder and madder that we have to worry about this when a proven vaccine has been available all along. I consider our standing down on the vaccination program when small pox was and is a known biowarfare threat to be one of the greatest national defense failures I know of.

The trouble is that there are often consequences for a failure to be prepared and I hope its not too late for us on this one. Sort of like if you jump out of a plane without a parachute, you probably have a little while to realize it was a bad idea during which you are helpless to remedy the situation.

If those vaccinations had remained available even on a voluntary basis -- I would have kept my family's immunity up -- we would be far more prepared for such an attack and the "terror value" would be minimized.

26 posted on 10/30/2001 4:01:31 AM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: Liberty Ship
>> I consider our standing down on the vaccination program when small pox was and is a known biowarfare threat to be one of the greatest national defense failures I know of.<<

And in the event of an attack, it will appear to future generations quite incomprehensible.

I don't really understand it myself.

27 posted on 10/30/2001 4:16:42 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: tallhappy
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28 posted on 10/30/2001 6:01:01 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: tallhappy
bump
29 posted on 11/03/2001 9:17:13 PM PST by GOPJ
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30 posted on 11/08/2001 6:29:38 AM PST by Dixie Mom
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To: Liberty Ship
Frightening article!

Your link in Post #10 is excellent.

31 posted on 11/08/2001 6:54:37 AM PST by Gritty
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To: tallhappy
"In 1989, a Soviet biologist named Vladimir Pasechnik defected to Britain. British intelligence agents spent a year debriefing him in a safe house. By the end, the British agents felt they had confirmed that the U.S.S.R. had biological missiles aimed at the United States. This information reached President George Bush and the British Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher. Mrs. Thatcher then apparently telephoned the Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, and sternly confronted him. She was furious, and so was Bush."

And we have that scumbag Gorbachev here, letting him spout his sanctimonious "green" BS? That lying sack of $#!+ should be deported post haste. To Afghanistan. And that drunken fool Yeltsin, good grief. What kept us from bringing him here too, and putting him in charge of the Betty Ford clinic?

Can those Russian virus reactors be put to use cranking out vaccine at the same rate they were used to create the virus? They said that the innoculations the Western scientists had wouldn't protect them from the weaponized smallpox. Do they have vaccines that will protect people from it? I find it hard to believe that they don't have a working vaccine, given the fact that they were prepared to loose the disease on a world that could easily waft the germs back in their direction. Why aren't we asking for that vaccine? Seems like I remember Putin offering us a vaccine, but I don't remember if it was for smallpox, or anthrax. Does anyone remember?

Gorbachev and Yeltsin should be made into guinea pigs to see if the vaccine will really protect people from the weaponized virus. If it works, and they survive, deport them to Afghanistan. If it doesn't work, put their corpses in a rocket and send it hurtling into the sun.

This crap is intolerable!

32 posted on 11/24/2001 10:00:19 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
This scares me to tears. Is this how the population control of the future will look? If this kind of thing breaks out on this Earth again, there has to be a retribution for the leaders, for all the survivors to see.
33 posted on 11/24/2001 10:32:38 PM PST by jeremiah
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BTTT
34 posted on 11/25/2001 7:25:08 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
And we have that scumbag Gorbachev here, letting him spout his sanctimonious "green" BS? etc...

Great point. Something that hadn't crossed my mind but is 100% right.

And the idea about using their incubators to make vaccine is also a good one.

To my mind the Russians should cooperate without any hesitation or complaint.

35 posted on 11/25/2001 1:29:43 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
A nice, timely bit of Fear Mongering!
36 posted on 11/25/2001 1:36:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: jeremiah
"If this kind of thing breaks out on this Earth again, there has to be a retribution for the leaders, for all the survivors to see."

Have you heard of the Great Tribulation, or the Great White Throne Judgement?

37 posted on 11/25/2001 1:39:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: tallhappy
Bump to read later. I may get some water storage barrels for Christmas after reading this.
38 posted on 11/25/2001 2:00:09 PM PST by CathyRyan
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To: editor-surveyor
A nice, timely bit of Fear Mongering!

Why do you think it is fear mongering?

39 posted on 11/25/2001 2:18:19 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: editor-surveyor
Of course I have, it just seems to me that man is doing this. Of course man can be directed by "another".
40 posted on 11/25/2001 2:53:09 PM PST by jeremiah
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