[Topaz]

. "The need for vengeance is very strong in some human hearts, and someone who tries to pacify that need often becomes its next target."

The need for a violent response in this case is not because of a need for vengeance, it is a rational need to put a stop to the mass killings. If we don't take these necessary steps now, my dear Kathleen, you may be next.

[veryconernedamerican]

i agree this is not about vengeance it's about self-preservation, the other side isn't looking for a political solution. the deal with pacifists is they beleive the other side is wanting peace and if we could just get together we could make everyone happy, that didn't work with hitler and it won't work here. they are not bad people, in the past and in the future there will be legitimate times when their help is needed to moderate blood thirsty governments, here unfortunately it is the other side that has the thirst for blood. our blood.