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FBI Failed To Use Credible Intelligence and Forewarnings To Move Against Terror Cells In Time
WRRK, BBC, CNN, Arizona Republic, Boston Globe, AP,Tulsa World,Washington Times,Philippine Star News | September 22, 2001 | Patrick B. Briley

Posted on 09/22/2001 8:18:38 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner

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1 posted on 09/22/2001 8:18:38 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: golitely,LSJohn,Judge Parker,roughrider,Wallaby,BlueDogDemo,thinden,Fred Mertz,honway,rwz,kattracks
BUMP
2 posted on 09/22/2001 8:19:59 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: t-shirt,Uncle Bill, Chapita, Nita Nupress, Betty Jo,Inspector Harry Callahan,agrandis,Plummz,archy
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3 posted on 09/22/2001 8:26:14 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Schippers was a federal prosecutor in Chicago. He has never been part of the intelligence community.

Why in the world would anybody in the intelligence community listen to him?

And what are his sources?

4 posted on 09/22/2001 8:26:23 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Travis McGee,Black Jade,freedomnews,Abundy
BUMP
5 posted on 09/22/2001 8:27:18 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
With all due respect, OKC, how about some real web links?
6 posted on 09/22/2001 8:40:24 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
7 posted on 09/22/2001 8:55:46 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Wallaby,BlueDogDemo,golitely,LSJohn,Judge Parker,honway,Nita Nupress,thinden,rwz,Fred Mertz,archy
As stated in the article, one of Schippers' best and closest friends is an FBi agent who is one of the world's leading experts on terrorism.

Shippers had access to members of the intelligence community and Congressmen and Senators who sit on the Intelligence Committees of Congress.

He also had access to many classified documents during the impeachment proceedings and Senate trials. These documents pertained to matters of national security and were much more significant than just Clinton sex escapades.

Schippers writes about this in his book "Sellout" and complains that the Senators did not want much of this classified info brought out against Clinton in charges since they feared it would be harmful to the stability of the country and to the careers of some Republicans and Democrats.

8 posted on 09/22/2001 8:56:10 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: sinkspur
Interesting that you show up as the first poster after the bumps. Not saying that it means anything, just that it is interesting.
9 posted on 09/22/2001 8:57:01 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka
I'm just curious as to how a federal prosecutor would have inside information on the events of last Tuesday.

As OKC Sub points out, it's all second hand.

10 posted on 09/22/2001 9:02:59 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: litany_of_lies,Uncle Bill
Many of the articles I quoted from are on the FreeRepublic. Articles such as for the Arizona Republic and Boston Globe can be found at azcentral.com and bostonglobe.com, respectively.

Perhaps others on the FR like Uncle BIll can help set up the actual links for you to click on since I have not learned how to do that yet.

I spent most of my effort gathering and writing about the information. Sorry since it could have been done even better with the links you suggested. I did what I could with what I have and at least identified the articles and dates.

11 posted on 09/22/2001 9:04:45 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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The info Schippers knows about is second hand in the sense that it did not directly come from an actual terrorist involved.

Much of even the FBI's best info is second hand in the sense that it did not come directly from terrorists. And some of the info that comes to the FBI from informants can be flawed especially if it comes from people who double crossed them which has happened before.

But most of Schippers info is first hand in the sense that it came from people who are directly involved in investigations. Schippers' info is as direct as is possible.

12 posted on 09/22/2001 9:13:05 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thanks for the response. Your evidence is credible, I would just like to see more.

I feel that WTC was the third, if not 4th, terrorist attack on the civilized world, including at least two of the following:

- OKC bombing, based on your evidence and other information brought up in this forum.
- TWA 800. All those who saw a missile were deluding themselves, right?
- The Egyptian pilot who crashed a plane (forget flight # and airline). This one may have been a guy who just flipped, but we'll probably never know. The Egyptian government sure doesn't want us to know.

I also feel that ARIFPOTUS (Accused Rapist and Impeach Former President of the United States) was SO intent on making sure that nothing interrupted his eight-year party that he was willing to orchestrate cover-ups of at least the first two, knowing that a pliant mainstream press would back him up.

It's really too bad the Internet didn't have a high percentage of penetration (excuse the pun) into American homes back in 1995 and 1997. I believe OKC and TWA 800 would have turned out very differently.

13 posted on 09/22/2001 9:15:28 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: litany_of_lies
- TWA 800. All those who saw a missile were deluding themselves, right?

The tinfoil says that it got zapped in a US naval artillery accident...

14 posted on 09/22/2001 9:18:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: sinkspur
There is no education in the second kick of a mule. Go figure!
15 posted on 09/22/2001 9:20:53 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: OKCSubmariner
Thorough report. If you even put the sources in parenthesis it would have more credibility.

I've seen the Tulsa World article and can validate what you wrote about there.

16 posted on 09/22/2001 9:25:41 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: t-shirt, Fred Mertz, Plummz, Michael Rivero, Former Lurker
FYI. Lots more about the Laurel and Arlington connections and about the Air Egypt flight here.
17 posted on 09/22/2001 9:41:22 PM PDT by aristeides (demosthenes@olg.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If TWA 800 were downed by a Navy missile, I'm supposed to believe that at least a half dozen Navy people who know about it all won't talk? I don't think so. A terrorist with a Stinger is a better explanation.
18 posted on 09/22/2001 9:44:05 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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I just finished reading this too. It is mind boggling that the FBI has been monitoring them for years. What were they waiting for?

OKCSub - super job! I'm going to flag some more folks to your article.

19 posted on 09/22/2001 9:47:53 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: OKCSubmariner
BUMP! Thanks for the post.
20 posted on 09/22/2001 9:52:33 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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