Good God.
"Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No Hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too..."
Et cetera, et cetera.
Of all the whiney-assed, inappropriate, totally OUT OF TOUCH things he could have come up with, WHY THIS? WHAT A BURNED OUT, BRAIN DAMAGED, OLD HIPPIE PUNK! SEND HIM BACK TO ONTARIO! But that won't happen. He has a career to resurrect, just like Mariah Carey. Who the Hell invited this guy? David Geffen?
1 posted on
09/22/2001 6:36:04 AM PDT by
OKSooner
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Later on Freepers. Got a busy day, tons of things on the "to do" list today.
For those of you that attempted to criticise me for my opinions, SCREW YOU! Although I am quite confident we do share the same thoughts on a wide variety of topics, just not this one. For those of you that debated with me in a friendly manner, I appreciate the fact you didn't resort to insults during the discussions.
Peace!
To: OKSooner
Many in our Hollyweird/pop singer "community" are in a state of deep confusion. Yes, many of them truly hate America (except for the bushels of money you can make and the groupies). But they can't get the picture of those planes hitting the WTC buildings out of there minds. Who among us can?
For such touchie/feelie types, this group is amazingly out of touch with the mood of America. Last night's performance makes that obvious. What a patriotic rouser they could have made that concert. Instead...
I believe SOME of these people are having second thoughts about their pacifist "blame America first" attitudes. SOME. We could have had two hours of "we are the true terrorists" rants. I expected it, but we didn't get that. We could have had two hours of patriotism. We didn't. We got candles and black -- something they all could agree on.
That is a hint to me that there are divisions in the group. The small flame of love of country may be growing in some of these people. Let's hope so.
To: OKSooner
Hey Okie, I'm in McAlester. Is there a game televised today? What time?
Imagine is a communistic, pacifistic, atheistic theme song. It's presence at a benefit for those police/firefighters is a contradiction. The only difference between a policeman and a soldier is dimension. A policeman goes after a criminal individual and a soldier goes after a criminal state.
If either is "immoral" then both are immoral.
196 posted on
09/22/2001 9:10:41 AM PDT by
xzins
To: OKSooner
Why wasn't there a barf alert with this post ?
WHY?!?!?!
Cheese .
To: OKSooner
"I hope Neil Young will remember... a Southern man don't need him around, anyhow.."
from "Sweet Home Alabama", Lynyrd Skynyrd.
211 posted on
09/22/2001 9:52:52 AM PDT by
Twodees
To: OKSooner
It's a ludicriously (sorry about the spelling) overated song anyway.
To: IMAGINE --- the new and improved version
The song has definitely needed a re-write for a long, long time, probably within minutes of its release.
NEW AND IMPROVED "IMAGINE"
To: OKSooner
Wishful thinking for that old used up has been....All you can do is imagine............heaven and hell exist. We'll all end up in one of the two. Regardless if it's politically correct or not.
To: OKSooner
Neil Young is absolutely great. A fabulous human being who puts his money and energy where his mouth is. He is relevant and intelligent and incredibly appealing. He has every right to sing and say what he wants. Isn't that what we're fighting for?
231 posted on
09/22/2001 10:40:35 AM PDT by
Osinski
To: OKSooner
...all the whiney-assed, inappropriate, totally OUT OF TOUCH things he could have come up with, WHY THIS? WHAT A BURNED OUT, BRAIN DAMAGED, OLD HIPPIE PUNK! SEND HIM BACK TO ONTARIO! But that won't happen. He has a career to resurrect, just like Mariah Carey. Who the Hell invited this guy? David Geffen?Exactly!
To: OKSooner, PJ-comix
Yo PJ, bump for your edification too.
To: OKSooner
Didn't watch it. I gave earlier in the name of real hero's, my Father, Barbara Olson, victims and their families ....not in the name of and for the purpose of hollywood elitists self-grandiosity. If they raised a lot of money for the cause, great... though it may have been nothing more than an opportunity to ease their conscience.
To: OKSooner
Hey, I'm not religious, but I also am offended by this song. It says that the answer is to have a one-world government, free of "greed" (which is their term for capitalism). So the translation is, Young sympathizes, at root, with the motives of those who targeted the World Trade Towers, the symbols of capitalist "greed" in our country. Sickening.
To: OKSooner
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too..." Aren't these lines insensitive to the Taliban? Tsk, tsk. This could be a hate crime, or a thought crime, or something.
To: OKSooner
I did not see it mentioned elsewhere here so I will say it. Neil Young is or at least was a Republican, at a time when it was almost unheard of for a rock star to be a Republican. I would guess this would have been in the early '80s when I heard it, plus or minus. From his songs, and in consideration of the times in which he wrote them, I sense that Young is a contrarian. I would define contrarian in this sense as someone who takes pleasure in looking at the other side of an issue and exploiting it for intellectual or visceral or emotional impact.
As for singing the song, "Imagine", I have no illusions that people here have not nailed Lennon for what he was: an espouser of communist ideology through his later works, including the song. However, that is not the only value of a song. I think most people would probably home in on the overall theme of peace and miss the specific references to communism. I miss most of the lyrics most of the time to most popular songs, and only came across the communist slant of "Imagine" through FR.
So why did Young sing "Imagine" even though he is conservative? Here is a hypothesis- I just think he is deliberately going outside his own envelope musically.I think Young is slumming and if anyone follows his politics closely, it is just another way of saying **** you if you thought you could predict me. Can't imagine Young onstage without hunched over a guitar? Well, there he was on keyboards- multiple sets. That would be typical for someone with a rebel bent like Young. This is not to idolize him or even to excuse his choice of songs but to give some background. He probably stood out like a sore thumb backstage, with all the antsy pantsy New York polyester liberals running around (I think he has a ranch on the SF Bay peninsula). Give a guy a break once in a while. If nothing else, Young takes what he was born with and made it go a long, long way. And I'd bet in person he would come across as authentic, someone you could hang out with and even observe making an occasional mistake or two, and then laughing it off.
Who knows, he could be reading this right now and laughing his *** off at everyone in FR who thinks he's gone commie.
Think about it.
Just my $0.02.
274 posted on
09/22/2001 11:54:49 AM PDT by
SteveH
To: OKSooner
The lyrics of Imagine can be taken in a number of ways, including an as ode to communism, if your the type who fears Reds under the bed. Personally, I think that Neil Young is a great, and is one of the few from the sixties who has remains vital and relevant. He leaves most of his contemporaries for dead. Personally, I didn't like the choice of song, and would have prefered that he did "Rocking in the Free World" with that great line "Don't feel like Satan, but I am to them, so I try to forget it anyway I can." Seems appropriate with these fanatics viewing the US as the Great Satan. By the way, Neil came out in support Reagan during the 1980s and says that he's a greater capitalist than his fans would ever think. Go figure.
To: OKSooner
Neil YOung has a "tin ear" politically, morally, and musically.
Rmemeber how Lynnard Skynnard put him down in the "Sweet Home Alabama" song:
Something like "we don't need Neil Young..."
To: OKSooner
Neil YOung has a "tin ear" politically, morally, and musically.
Rmemeber how Lynnard Skynnard put him down in the "Sweet Home Alabama" song:
Something like "we don't need Neil Young..."
To: OKSooner
Neil YOung has a "tin ear" politically, morally, and musically.
Rmemeber how Lynnard Skynnard put him down in the "Sweet Home Alabama" song:
Something like "we don't need Neil Young..."
To: OKSooner
Crosby, Stills & Nash were on Jay Leno this week. It did my heart good to see them saluting McCain and talking patriotic. (Nash became a citizen in the '80s.) Anyway, they seemed like many of us, having swung from left in our youth to right as we matured. The same folks who sang about "four deed in Ohio" at an earlier time in our history were singing about the stars and stripes. Guess this really is bringing us together as a country...
I wondered why Young wasn't with them. Then I saw him on the "tribute". I was disappointed.... He seemed so stuck in the '60s -- still.
Petty was great! Loved that snear and defiant look he had!
I agree with another poster about not knowing who a lot of them were, and there should have been names at the bottom when they came on for their numbers. Also think Reba should have sung instead of just being on the phones.
296 posted on
09/22/2001 12:36:46 PM PDT by
MD5
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