TSA may start charging a fee for travelers without a Real ID or other approved ID

CBS ^ | 20 Nov 2025 | Megan Cerullo

[Dartoid]

So you are equating a fine for non-compliance with a bribe?

[sauropod]

You vill use Real ID and you vill like it!

[AlaskaErik]

I’m not going through all the hoops to get a Real ID driver’s license. I just use my military ID. As a backup I have a passport and passport card.

[PAR35]

I have a more simple and cheaper solution. Just tell them “take a bus”.

[ClearCase_guy]

So you are equating a fine for non-compliance with a bribe?

I'm looking at it in an abstract way -- if your papers are not in order, handing over money will make the problem go away.
In Nigeria, it's a bribe. In America, it's a fine for non-compliance.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

That was the pre-moslem era. Many of us remember when they started acting up in the Mideast in the 60s, then killing Israelis at the Olympics, hijacking mid eastern planes, throwing men in wheelchairs off of cruise ships, tossing bodies off of aircraft and other niceties. Then the Germans imported millions of moslem “guest workers”. Then 9/11. Now millions are in the USA saying they will destroy us. Meanwhile, they are slaughtering untold numbers of Nigerian Christians and enslaving their girls.

If we had had Thomas Jefferson as POTUS in the 1960s, he would have known how to deal with the problem.

You can chalk up our loss of freedoms to Moslem conquest. We take small defensive steps.

[blitz128]

Agreed, much like I didn’t know working was an option, i didn’t know there were “exceptions “ to realid

I am sure some illegal or terrorist can afford 18$🤬

[Bratch]

Well, Well: US Govt Linking [Unknown Provider] Tracking Software to License Plate Readers and Facial Recognition

November 20, 2025 | Sundance 

The Associated Press is shocked, shocked, to discover that Customs and Border Protection has expanded their surveillance network beyond the “100 miles inland from every border” as authorized in the Patriot Act.

Worse yet is their stunned research showing license plate readers (APLR’s) are being connected to various other public and private sector mechanisms to identify travel patterns of U.S. citizens and collate them to facial recognition software applications.

Both the AP and CBS begin reporting on this domestic surveillance system as something quite new, it’s not.  We have previously outlined the construct as it was assembled HERE and HERE and HERE.

This is the part of the performance where past and present DC officials, including many that you personally support (Nunes), say the risk is now too great to worry about the 4th Amendment.  With borders unsecured by Obama and Biden, there is now no way to mitigate the risk from criminal aliens against the concern with privacy and the 4th Amendment.

In the bigger picture, this is why DC justifies extending FISA-702 reauthorization now.  The argument says, ‘If we do not support and create the surveillance state, we cannot capture and remove all the criminal aliens.’

WASHINGTON DC – The U.S. Border Patrol is monitoring millions of American drivers nationwide in a secretive program to identify and detain people whose travel patterns it deems suspicious, The Associated Press has found.

The Border Patrol’s predictive intelligence program has resulted in people being stopped, searched and in some cases arrested.

[…] The Border Patrol has recently grown even more powerful through collaborations with other agencies, drawing information from license plate readers nationwide run by the Drug Enforcement Administration, private companies and, increasingly, local law enforcement programs funded through federal grants. Texas law enforcement agencies have asked the Border Patrol to use facial recognition to identify drivers, documents show.

This active role beyond the borders is part of the quiet transformation of its parent agency, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, into something more akin to a domestic intelligence operation. Under the Trump administration’s heightened immigration enforcement efforts, CBP is now poised to get more than $2.7 billion to build out border surveillance systems such as the license plate reader program by layering in artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies. (read more)

The entire article is actually good; it’s just frustrating and annoying to see media pretending they didn’t know about this stuff until Trump.

CTH has been writing about this surveillance issue for well over a decade.  The introduction of Palantir facial recognition, to the overall database of social media information and private identity information, now makes it very easy for the government to simply point a camera at your face and get every scintilla of information about us.

Almost all of the privacy advocates have given up trying to resist the outcome. However, I am not one of them.  All it will take is a small mistake in the AI development programming, and people will see quickly just how dangerous this is.

[The Louiswu]

Coming and going through TSA it’s now facial recognition and once that gets all ramped up it’ll be connected to social media and then things will get spicy. Once SM is involved then what you say and do online will determine if you can travel, buy food, rent a place to live, buy fuel, clothes...etc. One world government is almost here and it’s gonna get ugly.

[T.B. Yoits]

Real ID Inc. is a korporation in bed with government, the very definition of Fascism.

https://www.realidinc.com/

This isn't about security, it's about control and selling your information to buyers everywhere.

It sounds like the korporate bosses are angry that people aren't surrendering to the identity rape, so the korporate bosses want the government to force them to.

[MayflowerMadam]

“If you haven’t noticed by now most people are born serfs.”

Yup. I noticed. How people reacted to Covid made that loud and clear.

[ProgressingAmerica]

Isn’t RealID unconstitutional?

(not that anybody would have the spine to challenge it in court, probably)

[DownInFlames]

That’s what they were saying. No real id, no flying.

[ridesthemiles]

MY ID IS GOOD ENOUGH TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT

GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE A DRIVER’S LICENSE

GOOD ENOUGH TO BUY A CAR

GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE VEHICLE INSURANCE

GOOD ENOUGH TO BUY PROPERTY

GOOD ENOUGH TO PAY ALL MY PROPERTY TAXES

TSA IS GOING TOO FAR

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

I thought headline was going someplace else....charging for the copping.

[CodeToad]

So the TSA wants to slow down processing even more??? That $18 is a tax.

[Adder]

To get the license or just the ID one must prove citizen ship.

I don’t think that is true at all. All I had to do waaayyy bak when was show a birth certificate and I have had my dl ever since. Same with most folks I imagine.

How do these foreigners get one with the name “No Name Given”?

[Fledermaus]

But you don’t need ANY ID to vote in a lot of states. Hmmmmm.

I’m not going to get a Real ID. I’m old enough I shouldn’t have to go through proving who I am again. Why a birth certificate? I lost mine decades ago.

So I’ll have to deal with 2 states’ bureaucratic BS to get one.

Ridiculous.

[bert]

That CDL came from New York, not America

[Adder]

Heh heh...