Posted on 07/03/2025 12:48:07 PM PDT by thegagline
Truthers!
Bakari Sellers - Dumbass, CNN
Somebody please slap him for being so stupid.
Doesn’t even begin to make sense.
Donald Trump has always been a citizen, born in the U.S.A. Any children born to him are citizens.
This isn’t rocket science.
Illiberal, extreme left-wing nuts on plumbing the lowest of
low depths.
Dolt alert! Dolt alert!
Thanks, NYPost... not that this statement should have anything to do with the topic (see also: Trump's EO banning Birthright Citizenship which is now valid, thanks to SCOTUS throwing out the injunction against it).
But if libs wanna argue that Trump's kids are subject to scrutiny... DJT would join that fight in a heartbeat, for to argue against them (a) is wrong, since father DJT is a legit citizen as a minimum; and (b) demands that they acknowledge that anchor babies are not legit citizens.
They beclown themselves at every turn. But there are always more Leftards to pick up the banner and carry it forward!
They are drinking their bong water.
Their opening gambit is slander and nothing they say can be taken at face value.
Consider the source. The guy has dumb ass written all over him.
Cnn is hardly credible and certainly not responsible journalism. More like some supermarket checkout tabloid. A crude joke.
Yes,
I believe, Trump is trying to ban automatic citizenship to children born to illegals or temporary visitors (so called birthing tourism).
But children born to noncitizen permanent residents would still gain US citizenship by birth, I believe.
“Donald Trump has always been a citizen, born in the U.S.A. Any children born to him are citizens.”
But are they natural born citizens, eligible to run for president? Many freepers have made that stupid argument against Obama because only his mother was a US citizen.
NBC is a legal issue. Trump's children were born in the USA to parents who were in the U.S. legally but not necessarily U.S. citizens. The U.S. Supreme Court (SC) has ruled that someone who is born on U.S. soil is an NBC if at the time of his birth, his parents were in the U.S. legally but not U.S. citizens. Therefore, according to the mandatory legal authority of sound constitutionally-based SC ruling and precedent, Trump's children are NBC.
Detailed argument
Since around 1900, (SC) rulings have become less and less valid because SC has gradually moved away from basing their decisions on the Constitution as written and originally understood and intended. But their ruling on NBC appear to be based on sound application of the Constitution.
In Perkins v. Elg, 99 F. 2d 408, Court of Appeals, Dist. of Columbia Circuit 1938, the Court of Appeals noted as part of the basis for their decision that...
In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S. Ct. 456, 42 L. Ed. 890, 1898 [the Court found that] [W]hen the Constitution was adopted, the people of the United States were the citizens of the several States for whom and for whose posterity the government was established. Each of them was a citizen of the United States at the adoption of the Constitution, and all free persons thereafter born within one of the several States became by birth citizens of the State and of the United States.
It appears the Court of Appeals in Elg (1939) agrees with Ark (1898) decison.
(Both Marie Elizabeth Elg and Wong Kim Ark were born on U.S. soil to parents who were here legally but not U.S. citizens. )
Again, the Constitution is properly applied as written and ORIGINALLY UNDERSTOOD and intended. What matters is what the ratifiers of the Constitution considered an NBC was. The Supreme Court decisions based on the good-faith and sound finding of original understanding of NBC in the Constitution is, therefore, legal precedent concerning NBC. Thus, Trump's children should be considered NBC.
Some argue that the term "NBC" is not specifically used in Ark or Elg, but these cases revolve around citizenship based on birth on U.S. soil, which is exactly what NBC is. An NBC is a citizen automatically because he was born on U.S. soil. He is “naturally” and automatically a citizen needing no further processing to become a U.S. citizen. He becomes a citizen under “natural” (birth) circumstances, exactly as Elg, Ark, and now Trump's children.
Mr. Chairman, I request unanimous approval to revise and extend my previous remarks to include the phrase “anchor babies of parents illegally entering the country and non-permanent residents”. Thank you.
See post # 16.
See post# 16.
It wasn't a stupid: it was a legitimate argument because of prevailing law at at the time of his birth: that citizenship essentially followed that of the father and not the mother. That law was later changed, but wasn't retroactively applied.
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