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Automation Could Make Or Break New US Port Strike Agreement: “No automation means no automation”
Epoch Times ^ | 10/11/2024 | Andrew Moran

Posted on 10/11/2024 9:29:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/11/2024 9:29:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

until it doesn’t, which will probably be by next summer at the latest. /hunch


2 posted on 10/11/2024 9:30:19 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: SeekAndFind

robots don’t strike


3 posted on 10/11/2024 9:31:59 AM PDT by posterchild
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The ports need to unionize the Robots and put democrats out of work


4 posted on 10/11/2024 9:35:06 AM PDT by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts for pedophiles and perverts.)
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To: Fai Mao

I agree.


5 posted on 10/11/2024 9:37:54 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: posterchild

Thankfully.


6 posted on 10/11/2024 9:38:08 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hard to imagine a better example of the dinosaur thinking of unions.

No to Progress!!


7 posted on 10/11/2024 9:38:28 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ideally for the Union, the ships should be unloaded by hand, using nets and slings - as they were for hundreds of years before machines were invented.


8 posted on 10/11/2024 9:38:50 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Why don’t we go back to just using wooden ships and sails while we’re at it.

Then we can create jobs for sail and rigging makers, carpenters to repair ships, and a whole new industry for manufacturing pitch.

All those jobs can be unionized as well and pay 150k a year.


9 posted on 10/11/2024 9:39:58 AM PDT by suasponte137
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The ILA taking a stand against containerized freight back in the 1970s is what killed the Brooklyn waterfront as a working waterfront. Now it's all parks and yuppies, so the real estate guys made out OK.

Mobbed up Anthony Scotto was the responsible union boss.

Freight still comes in on the east coast, and the ILA still "organizes" the dock workers, but not in Brooklyn.

I wonder if Oakland will be similarly gentrified?

10 posted on 10/11/2024 9:40:18 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah well, a lot of folks thought “Never again!” meant never instead of almost never.


11 posted on 10/11/2024 9:41:58 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from withinE? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Why are they using sea containers and cranes? Think of how many more jobs there would be if everything was unloaded by hand and moved by hand dolly.

Reminds me of the story of the engineer visiting China in the 60s noting that the dam construction would move more quickly if they used dozers instead of straw baskets and shovels. The party official say, but what job would the workers do? The engineer thinks and says replace their shovels with spoons.


12 posted on 10/11/2024 9:42:15 AM PDT by rey
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Fire all 85,000 of them and hire Mexicans. At least they work.


13 posted on 10/11/2024 9:48:35 AM PDT by caver ( )
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The unions did not like locked containers. They considered a certain percentage of the cargo falling off the ships into their trunks to be part of their pay.


14 posted on 10/11/2024 9:49:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know how smart the Mexican government is. But a smart move by them would be to open up their ports to automation-minded investors. Unload there, then move the goods to the United States.

I don’t know if that is even doable. But if the longshoremen keep demanding crazier and crazier things, somebody just might give it a try.

Side point: I live in an old mill town, and worked in a steel mill for awhile. I saw the mill union (USW) demand crazier and crazier things. The union wasn’t the only culprit, to be sure. But now the mills are gone.


15 posted on 10/11/2024 9:49:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is far too much power in that little group of workers at America’s choke points, take it away from them.


16 posted on 10/11/2024 9:49:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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We all depend on a thriving economy. Well, maybe not government entities.

And the economy has to be semi efficient otherwise it will never get off of the ground nor sustain itself once it is moving.

That includes labor type jobs such as dock workers. It would be terrible for everyone if they were still using block and tackle and mules to move items around. Terrible for everyone including the workers.


17 posted on 10/11/2024 9:50:45 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Foreign owned harbor/dock robots might.


18 posted on 10/11/2024 9:53:59 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it. Mark Twain)
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Imagine if buggy whip manufacturers would have been able to shut Henry Ford down...

Or if they’d stuck with man powered spades instead of the steam shovel...

Processing cotton by hand rather than with a gin...

SAME DIFFERENCE HERE...


19 posted on 10/11/2024 9:55:13 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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They work 24/7. They take no lunch hours or breaks. No overtime, holidays, sick days or vacations. No health care plan, workers comp or pensions.

The equipment is currently inches away from being not just automated, but autonomous.


20 posted on 10/11/2024 9:55:57 AM PDT by steve in DC
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