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1 posted on 07/17/2024 5:54:37 AM PDT by Red Badger
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My, my, my. Curiouser and curiouser.


43 posted on 07/17/2024 6:31:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (ScreamingEagleMom)
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Don’t be surprised if we start hearing about key individuals dying in car crashes or from heart attacks.

History has a way of repeating itself - JFK assassination.


44 posted on 07/17/2024 6:31:46 AM PDT by texanyankee
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Water tower 90ft tall, 100yrds East of assassin.

No over watch?

That vantage point easily covers the area

Why is no one talking about this?


46 posted on 07/17/2024 6:32:36 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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[[“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” ]]

totally like weird man, because you know, the roof that the ss snipers were on was more sloped than the building the perp was on!

The explanations are asinine- parently they think that they can Spit on us some more and tell us it’s raining- and think that we are so stupid we will beleive it


51 posted on 07/17/2024 6:35:45 AM PDT by Bob434
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Then there's this:

A sniper from a local tactical team deployed to assist the U.S. Secret Service at former President Donald Trump's rally on Saturday took a picture of the gunman and saw him looking through a rangefinder minutes before he tried to assassinate the former president, a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge of the events told CBS News.

Our local talk show was talking about this earlier this morning. He said the shooter did enter the venue with a rangefinder and at the stage measured the distance to his perch. And was spotted and photographed by secret service.

Googleable. You could not write fictional assassination story that could have all the crazy incidents coming to light.

57 posted on 07/17/2024 6:45:47 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I'd like to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.)
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[[“That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” ]]

Oh, and one other point that just occurred to me- evidently the roof the perp was on “was too sloped and too da grouse evid etly” for ss, but not for the cops who apparently were supposed to cover the rooftop but failed to? Again- their excuse about the roof being too dangerous to stand on isn’t adding up at all. Yes there was a sloped, but my goodness, it was nearly a flat roof, and, again, the ss themselves were on a sloped building top near Trump znd had no problems


58 posted on 07/17/2024 6:46:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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The question we have to ask is, if that’s the best technology we have, and we had a CS team up there with a shooter that, you know, we’re trained out to a thousand yards in the Secret Service with the counter-sniper team. How did they miss someone at most, you know, one-fifth of the way there? It doesn’t make any sense.
It makes perfect sense for the counter-sniper team to concentrate on the >500yd approaches, if the plan was that some other team was tasked with securing the nearby building.

Somebody screwed up. Did some in the local sheriff's department not understand what their responsibilities were?

Did the Secret Service assign them the task of securing the building without making it clear that included controlling access to the roof?

61 posted on 07/17/2024 6:52:14 AM PDT by jdege
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The roof that the counter snipers were deployed on was sloped. And from what I’ve seen of the slope on all of those barn roofs (it’s a fairground) is very mild. I call bull**** on everything the SS has said in their statements.

CC


63 posted on 07/17/2024 6:56:34 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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““That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” the Secret Service director said in a statement to ABC News.”

I’m a 60 year old women/widow. I climb up a ladder to get onto my metal roof...with a steeper slope...at least a dozen times a year to clean out gutters with a leaf blower, or clean the chimney flu. Maybe they should have used 60 year old widowed grannies because they’re not afraid to slip a bit protecting Trump??


64 posted on 07/17/2024 6:57:17 AM PDT by sevinufnine
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That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point.

I noticed the other buildings that the Secret Service were on have the same sloped roof.

69 posted on 07/17/2024 7:05:29 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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And what about the ladder standing next to the building. Who brought it and why didn’t anyone notice it standing there.


82 posted on 07/17/2024 7:33:39 AM PDT by MondoQueen
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The braindead SS Director thinks she is too brilliant by half and keeps volunteering all sorts of crazy notions why security was not posted at a 150 yard line-of-sight roof vantage sniper perch. The stupid woke Director has zero real world knowledge and postulates that a peaked roof made it impossible for a security post to be placed on the roof. Yet, the sniper who shot the perp was positioned on the peak of a slanted roofed building used as the backdrop for the stage where Trump spoke. Then she stupidity digs her hole even deeper by advancing the notion that sitting around inside the subject building used by the shooter as his sniping perch provided satisfactory coverage of the elevated threat outside and right over their heads. If this excuse is true, how is it they did not hear the perp crawling across the roof above them? I can hear birds walking outside on the metal roof of my machine shed when I’m inside the building. Another stupid excuse I heard that she made was the roof wouldn’t support a security detail, yet we see two agents up on the roof with the dead perp. Now the AG has told her to just shut up and the House has issued a subpoena for her testimony, which will be promptly ignored. They don’t want this stupid fool sitting in the House witness chair because she is too woke and too dumb for the Commies to risk that she just might compromise their conspiracy to ‘off’ Trump. Bongino has inside SS contacts and he has promised to keep boring down on this screwed up Commie assassination attempt.


83 posted on 07/17/2024 7:40:25 AM PDT by iontheball
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If Alejandro Mayorkas is involved in any way...well knowing what we do about him, I’d say he needs to be investigated a little closer.


84 posted on 07/17/2024 7:44:49 AM PDT by oldtech
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I'm pretty much to the point of asking not whether it was sabotage or mere incompetence, but just how much of it was planned out. Remember when Peter Struk (sp?) told Lisa Page about an insurance policy if all else failed? Well once again all else failed (ie, lawfare). So did they decide this time to deploy a more lethal fallback plan? Such as leaving an opening for some would-be assassin to saunter in and take out Trump, while at the same time having agents in the field slow-walk the capture of the Person of Interest and not inform Trump's security detail to get him off the stage until the POI is caught?

If so, then i imagine the initial plans may have looked something like this:

Plan A
1. Take out Trump by any non-violent means possible (lawfare, removing him from the ballot, etc).
2. If plan A fails, proceed to Plan B as a last resort.

Plan B
1. Turn up the rhetoric on Trump by comparing him to Hitler and saying that he is a threat to democracy. This will greatly increase the odds of creating would-be assassins and having them show up at events. (This may have been planned or just happened organically).
2. Leave holes in Trump's security perimeter at every turn, such as not properly securing roofs within short range of the stage at rallies.
3. Use DEI to not only surround Trump with as many under-experienced or under-qualified agents as possible, but also agents who are more likely to be anti-Trump (such as transgender liberal types) so that we might be able to use one or more as cohorts.
4. If this plan works there is risk to us, but we can hide behind DEI hiring (we know conservatives will point to this) in order to explain away failures and bad decision-making. We ourselves can feign stupidity if need be (such as, say, pretending that we thought certain types of roofs were too dangerous to station officers on). This hopefully will give us enough cover. People will be highly suspicious of course, but our politicians and our media will be quick to ridicule them as crazy right-wing conspiracy theorists.

88 posted on 07/17/2024 8:06:36 AM PDT by Humbug
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Cheatle's resignation should have been on Alejandro Mayorkas's desk at open of business Monday morning. That it wasn't speaks volumes in itself.

The line we're getting now is that responsibility was shared with the local police due to stretched resources. It's as silly as the roof slope story. When you have such resources assigned, that's one thing, when nobody bothers even to check to verify they're there, that's criminal negligence.

Whether negligence or bad luck or malice or all three, the Secret Service failed utterly to do its job. Cheatle needs to go.

99 posted on 07/17/2024 9:51:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Thanks.
BKMK


101 posted on 07/17/2024 10:00:12 AM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31 )
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110 posted on 07/17/2024 12:22:40 PM PDT by nutmeg (FJB)
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