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Polish president: No Ukrainian territory can be ceded to Russia as price for peace deal
The Washington Times ^ | July 9, 2024 | Ben Wolfgang and Guy Taylor

Posted on 07/09/2024 4:25:10 PM PDT by McGruff

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To: McGruff
Well, it looks like Ukraine will just have to keep bombing their own hospitals then.

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41 posted on 07/09/2024 5:13:53 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: wildcard_redneck

“The Polish President is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian. How noble.”

If he keeps up that attitude he’ll wind up having to cede Polish territory to Russia, also.


42 posted on 07/09/2024 5:13:54 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; Leaning Right; wildcard_redneck; BobL
Stop that, and Moscow will have to surrender inside two years.

LOL!

Who will The Russia surrender to? The last remnants of the broken Ucrazian army?

43 posted on 07/09/2024 5:17:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; All

“Moscow cannot build even average weapons without machine tools, computer chips, even explosives precursors smuggled from Western countries, which they are doing in quantity. Stop that, and Moscow will have to surrender inside two years. “


We have been hearing this garbage from Regime Media and people like you since March 2022.

There reality is that Russia weapons output just keeps getting bigger ahd bigger. While the West like the USA can’t even build an ammunition factory without importing Turkish machinery.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-a-texas-factory-will-become-a-key-ammo-supplier-for-the-us-ukraine/ar-BB1oKWtF


44 posted on 07/09/2024 5:19:00 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The “west” can easily intercept all shipping from Russian ports. Nearly the entire Russian oil trade goes by sea.

Alternative routes are few and much lower in capacity.


45 posted on 07/09/2024 5:19:22 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: kiryandil

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4250014/posts?page=8#8

I’m thinking they’re now sick of this site and actually WANT JR to Zot them.


46 posted on 07/09/2024 5:19:54 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“Moscow cannot build even average weapons without machine tools, computer chips, even explosives precursors smuggled from Western countries”

Link please.


47 posted on 07/09/2024 5:20:43 PM PDT by BobL
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To: wildcard_redneck

*If they want in a fight then Poland had better understand that they cannot throw punches while hiding behind Uncle Sam like a little bully in a gang.*

If the Philippine navy was smart they’d blow up a Chicom Coast Guard ship harassing them the same way BJ’s bombers blew up the Chinese embassy in-was it Serbia?

The Polaks have just as much reason to hate the Russians as the Ukes.


48 posted on 07/09/2024 5:23:02 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: BobL

He is free to zot me, and my money.

To be replaced by... trolls?


49 posted on 07/09/2024 5:23:55 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
And that’s the trick. The purchase price of the occupied Ukrainian territory has to be large enough to satisfy Kiev, but not so much as to repel Moscow.

Who could pull such a trick off?


50 posted on 07/09/2024 5:25:03 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: kiryandil

“Who will The Russia surrender to? The last remnants of the broken Ucrazian army?”

Right. Note how carefully the Ukrainian losses are concealed. It’s highly likely they aren’t going to last two years. That’s the reason for this new push for war with Russia.


51 posted on 07/09/2024 5:26:08 PM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: buwaya

“The “west” can easily intercept all shipping from Russian ports.”

Which is an act of war, World War 3, but then again, that’s all you guys seem to want anyway.

But the question for you guys is very simple: How many US Carriers are you willing to sacrifice for your attempt at direct war with Russia, since Russia has shown that their missiles glide right past the best NATO air defenses in Ukraine?

Would 2 carriers get your attention? perhaps? I think that I can safely say that the US DOD’s limit is ZERO carriers, which means your dream of attacking Russian shipping is never going to happen.

So why post garbage like this, especially when JR is on thread and it’s clear where he stands. Do you really want to get Zotted or something.


52 posted on 07/09/2024 5:27:01 PM PDT by BobL
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To: buwaya

“The “west” can easily intercept all shipping from Russian ports.”

Yeah, and that’s an open declaration of war if we do. And they can start sinking ships.


53 posted on 07/09/2024 5:27:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: McGruff

What happens when Ukraine runs out of men? Is it not obvious? Poland gets the parts of Ukraine they always wanted.


54 posted on 07/09/2024 5:27:06 PM PDT by mission9 (It is by the fruit ye shall know.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Poland makes and coordinates their plans as part of NATO’s defense strategy. Poland is not “a little bully in a gang.”


55 posted on 07/09/2024 5:27:34 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: McGruff

Russia was ALWAYS going to prevail in this conflict.
While it’s true that Putin would never have moved on Ukraine under Trump, they would have done so at some future date anyway.
The population of the contested area speaks Russian and has been begging the Russian government to intercede on their behalf for decades.
Russia will persist, no matter who runs their country.
This is a Russian issue, not a Putin issue.
Any cease fire in the region will necessarily require that Ukraine acquiesce in the current status quo.
The US intervention not withstanding, the war will end with Ukraine conceding the ethnically Russian territory when Trump wins in November.


56 posted on 07/09/2024 5:28:25 PM PDT by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: buwaya

“He is free to zot me, and my money.”

I think he has limits as to how much leeway he gives people who troll for the Leftists on this site, regardless of attempted bribes.


57 posted on 07/09/2024 5:28:59 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“Moscow cannot build even average weapons without machine tools, computer chips, even explosives precursors smuggled from Western countries”

Russia has machine tools and millions of cell phones with very powerful computer chips.

Russia can make fertilizers and explosives.


58 posted on 07/09/2024 5:29:28 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: BobL

There is no need to use carriers. All such ships are easily tracked and can be intercepted at sea or in harbor, thousands of miles away from Russia, by any NATO frigate.

As for Ukraine having “the best NATO air defenses”, that is silly. They have three Patriot batteries, out of 100+ in the US and the rest of NATO.

If JR is threatening to zot me, well thats fine. He also loses my money.


59 posted on 07/09/2024 5:32:00 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: McGruff
It is most interesting that the two actual warring parties -- Ukraine and Russia, both non-NATO nations and non-EU nations -- are being "represented" by the public opinions of "official" non-playing characters pretending that they are "playing characters."

It is time for some NATO and/or EU nations to actually DECLARE WAR and enter the fighting. Waiting....

One escalates wars of words, as if....

60 posted on 07/09/2024 5:33:03 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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