Posted on 06/09/2024 2:47:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) continued to defend his comments on the marriage rate during the Jim Crow era during a contentious conversation with MSNBC anchor Al Sharpton.
Donalds appeared on MSNBC’s PoliticsNation on Saturday after his event in Philadelphia earlier this week when he discussed how the black marriage rate was higher back then than it is now. His comments have come under fire by many on the Left, who have interpreted the remark to be about how Jim Crow laws benefitted black people at the time despite the fact that they kept them in segregation and prohibited them from voting. Sharpton offered Donalds another opportunity to respond to the backlash.
“My response is that it’s very interesting how people can just lie and mischaracterize what I said,” Donalds said.” I never said or insinuated anything about Jim Crow being better. Just was talking about the marriage rates of black families in America during that time period. It’s an empirical fact.”
“I mean to in any way infer that the families, black families were better in Jim Crow, I mean, I’ve said things that I later said I shouldn’t have said,” Sharpton said. “Can’t you own that even sanitizing Jim Crow, even if that wasn’t your intention, was to say that’s my intention, I’m sorry for using those words?”
“Well, first of all, I never sanitized Jim Crow. I was just talking about the era in which black marriage rates were higher than they were during the great society and every other point in American history,” Donalds responded.
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Kudos to Rep. Donalds for refusing to let them spin his words.
why is Byron going on these puke media stations
The name “Jim Crow” was a pejorative. Sharpton should apologize for using the phrase.
Hey Al... Up yours you racist pig.
The term “Jim Crow laws” came out of his racist, black hating democrat party he worships so much. Nice job mangling your history there, Al.
Hey - fvck Al Sharpton. Did I say fvck Al Sharpton?
One of my fantasies is to have a reporter or talk show host interview Al Sharpton, and ask him only questions about spiritual issues — no politics. For example, we could start with “Of all the baptisms, weddings, and funerals you have presided over, do any stand out?” And then maybe some doctrinal questions, like if he believes in the pre-Tribulation or post-Tribulation Rapture. When Sharpton cannot give coherent answers to those questions, he will be revealed for the phony man-of-the-cloth that he really is, and his head will probably explode when he realizes that the whole country knows he has never been part of the solution, just part of the problem.
Under Charleton’s tutelage, the plight of black Americans has been diminished. He is a media whore.
I understand where you are coming from, but I feel that it is a cultural shift that must take place, not a political one.
As a people, when speaking the truth, we need to give less of a crap about what other people think of it...if it is the truth.
I am reading a book that tells a terrible story, called “Big Intel” by J. Michael Waller that talks about the history of the FBI and CIA to this point, and how they have been captured by our enemies.
One of the recurrent themes is the use of speech restrictions under the banner of inclusion, but I applies to all speech.
I don’t know how we get around it. But further knuckling under in the way they want us to seems counterproductive.
The Left enjoys changing the meanings and symbols of discourse in such a way that their opponents are constantly off guard. They define things, then change them at their discretion to allow them to do things like this (what they are trying to do to Byron Donalds, and all of us)
We shouldn’t give them that power, because they have shown how they use it.
Oh good grief. You completely rephrased what the guy said, adding detail and dropping the offensive part. He didn’t say that. Jim Crow equals hard times? Diminishes it quite a bit. Slavery perhaps an inconvenience but at least they had jobs of a sort.
His "them Greek homos" statement never gets any coverage, doesn't get repeated ad nauseum, and in fact, his racist campaign in the Brawley fiasco should have A) sent him to prison and B) kept him off the air for life. Shows what a steaming partisan crap-pile media really is.
The Jim Crow laws were state and local laws introduced in the Southern United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries that enforced racial segregation, ... With white southern Democrats forming a solid voting bloc in Congress......
Yet who but a fool or someone trying to smear a political opponent would think that such sentiments mean that one is nostalgic for slavery, Jim Crow, war, and depression?
Except for the very fortunate, life is full of unfairness and adversity. Surviving them requires one to be tough and to find strength where one can, which usually means family and friends. That is a lesson that transcends race and the particulars of an individual life.
What is implied in these comparisons is that black people cant handle more freedom.
The fact that you can’t see that is sad.
By saying that it’s not the implication ‘at all’ is pretty arrogant and tone deaf when there is an obvious pushback to these comments from lots of people.
By shifting the conversation to America as a whole, you’re avoiding what was actually said. And if it’s something that goes beyond just the black population, why bring up Jim Crow and how it was better then? Did Jim Crow keep white families together too?
The entire premise and the way t was presented was offensive and stupid.
The logical fallacy that you seem to have taken to heart is thinking that if one points out that black marriage rates and family cohesion were better in the past, it must have been because of Jim Crow. Actually, as has been abundantly show, family formation and cohesion were better in the past because traditional American culture was strongly dedicated to the Christian faith, to family formation, and to personal resilience as an American attribute.
More generally, as Gertrude Himmelfarb and other scholars have shown, Christian morality was the foundation for generations of moral and material progress. To take a prominent example from the American context, for decades in the middle of the 19th Century, Irish immigrants were regarded as the most backward and violent community in New York (think "Gangs of New York"). That changed due to Catholic evangelization led by Fr. John Hughes, who eventually became the Archbishop of New York.
Notably, Hughes established the Catholic school system in New York and its success led to it being copied throughout the country. Within a generation, Hughes and the priests and nuns he recruited and the schools and social services they provided changed the Irish Americans of New York into a solid, church-going working class on their way up in the world. And they did so in a city that at the time regarded the Irish with as much disdain as blacks.
Black Americans today are finding their way up in the world, and in Florida, it is often due to educational voucher programs that Byron Donalds advocated and supported when he was in the Florida Legislature. Black churches, parents, and teachers running small neighborhood schools have done quite a job in Florida in helping boost the test scores of black students.
What now? Will you dissent and tell me that sounds just like Jim Crow, back when Black people ran many of their schools.
Gave me a laugh. Picturing him starting to sweat.
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