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To: whitney69

Sorry, not buying. The Injection was not good (preventive) medicine and those orders should not have been issued. This was experimental and informed consent did not take place, and right of refusal should have been allowed. I applaud the courage of those who refused.

The annual influenza vaccine was not held in much regard by healthcare professionals during my career. Common knowledge circulated how to evade it and I never saw any command response.

The religious exemptions should have been accepted, period. Certainly no inquisitions should have taken place. Frankly, there should have been a much broader exemption - “I choose not to.” The perceived risks to readiness were misperceptions - but now appear to have become real as one result of the orders and how they were executed.

It will be interesting to see how many return.

As for assurances that no abortive tissue was used in testing and development, the many violations of scientific principals and practices that have already taken place in this entire “COVID” phenomenon leave those assurances sounding both faint and futile.


22 posted on 05/25/2024 7:23:26 AM PDT by PsyCon
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To: PsyCon

A lot of things in your post.

“...informed consent did not take place...”

They were given the option of refusing the injection. But it would have constituted a bad conduct discharge. The troops signed the contract and refused an order, not the use of the vaccine.

Also, the information I gave you in the thread was truth. The original “religious” refusal was not part of the military system when the reason for refusal didn’t exist. Their complaint for refusal was based upon the use of cells in the vaccine which hadn’t been done for well over a 30 years.

“The annual influenza vaccine w2as a mixture of as many as 4 vaccines to cover what they thought would hit the next year in Febuary of the previous year. And they knew that over 200 were coming through so they guessed at the worst. As for the command response, numbers proved they should have.

The overall burden of influenza (flu) for the 2021-2022 season was an estimated 9.4 million flu illnesses, 4.3 million flu-related medical visits, 100,000 flu-related hospitalizations, and 4,900 flu deaths. The military mandated the vaccine for only 15 months from August 2021 through January 2023. COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause in 415,399 deaths during 2021. But being a military troop, and having an understanding of bio warfare, (NBC), the intention of it is not neccessarily to kill, but to disable the fighting man/woman. And the unknowledgeable efforts of troops to misuse the religious angle accomplished that by increasing TDY’s and short moves downrange for some and others didn’t do their job.

“The religious exemptions should have been accepted, period.”

It was, and they were discharged. But no excemption should be accepted at face value. And this was one. It only became an inquisition when the vaccine was misidentified by someone and people were trying to take advantage of it to get out of trips downrange. And that made it harder for the troops that fullfilled their contracts, and had to go back far more than they would if the exemptors had done what they said they would do.

“As for assurances that no abortive tissue was used in testing and development, the many violations of scientific principals and practices that have already taken place in this entire “COVID” phenomenon leave those assurances sounding both faint and futile.”

Then prove them wrong. My info comes from numerous sources from the AMA and the CDC. You are working with conjecture, not fact or even an investigation for proof of the use of cells in the vaccines past 1985. Need more than that otherwise it is a rumor.

wy69


25 posted on 05/25/2024 9:03:45 AM PDT by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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