Posted on 05/24/2024 10:13:08 AM PDT by Drew68
“Haiti is not someplace, you should go if you value your life.”
That’s true. But it’s the ONLY place you should go if you value your after-life — if that’s where God wants you.
You don’t get it. Not your fault.
"Ich bin ein Berliner"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helps_those_who_help_themselves
The apostle John was the only one who died of old age.
The rest were martyred for the sake of spreading the gospel.
The martyrdom of Jim Elliot changed the world for the people who killed him. God will use it to try to change lives. And since it’s God’s choice in when and how each of us dies, then He has a purpose for what happened to this family even if we can’t or refuse to see it.
“The rest were martyred for the sake of spreading the gospel.”
This very day, my sister (Baldwin77) is visiting the site in England where our ancestor was burned at the stake for his religious views in 1611.
It happened in Christ’s time. It happened in the 1600s. It’s happening now. It will continue.
I would not argue with that.
So since it is the will of God they were murdered there is no basis for discussion.
Raisi died in a helicopter crash for thew same reason.
One of my favorite “modern” (after 1900) hymns:
So send I you to labor unrewarded,
To serve unpaid, unloved, unsought, unknown,
To bear rebuke, to suffer scorn and scoffing-
So send I you to toil for Me alone.
So send I you to bind the bruised and broken,
O’er wand’ring souls to work, to weep, to wake,
To bear the burdens of a world aweary-
So send I you to suffer for My sake.
So send I you to loneliness and longing,
With heart ahung’ring for the loved and known,
Forsaking home and kindred, friend and dear one-
So send I you to know My love alone.
So send I you to leave your life’s ambition,
To die to dear desire, self-will resign,
To labor long, and love where men revile you-
So send I you to lose your life in Mine.
So send I you to hearts made hard by hatred,
To eyes made blind because they will not see,
To spend, tho’ it be blood, to spend and spare not-
So send I you to taste of Calvary.
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I was a Haitian social worker. We were never allowed to go into a dangerous area. Jesus said I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Carry a couple of swords. Even the Pope has armed bodyguards. Let’s not be completely stupid here. Jesus wanted us to use our brains, not be fools.
After Christ’s resurrection, the Apostles jeopardized their lives daily, to spread the Gospel. The romans and pharisees wanted the Christian movement squashed and hunted them down. What do you think Saul (Paul) was doing before Damascus?
Your logic concerning this is illogical.
I am a retired Air Force Rescue pilot and when I flew combat or civilian rescue missions, I “jeopardized” my life consistently trying to save other lives. By your logic, if I had been killed by an enemy surface to air missile, then I would’ve committed suicide??? Especially when Jesus says that there is no greater love than to lay your life down for your brother. Not buying it, sorry.
Your misunderstanding and failure to acknowledge responsibility on the part of those that are older and supposedly *wiser* is appalling and unworthy of being a parent
“ Suicide doesn’t help the cause,”
Which is basically what this ended up being. According to the father the kids trusted the gangs because a few had kids at their school. They put their faith in the gangs of a country with no rule or law
I was a Haitian social worker. We were never allowed to go into a dangerous area. Jesus said I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Carry a couple of swords. Even the Pope has armed bodyguards. Let’s not be completely stupid here. Jesus wanted us to use our brains, not be fools“
This ☝🏻
Please understand, I don’t take your message as necessarily directed toward me. I deeply respect their faith and what these two young people were trying to do in what I described, having seen it personally, as a living Hell. Just not sure everyone understands the depths of the pit they entered.
History and perspective. Well-stated. Thank you.
Some folks don’t get it and quite frankly never will.
These two did exactly what The Sovereign Lord God Almighty had them do. They lost their lives for THE GOSPEL - and they will inherit the biggest inheritance from God for doing exactly what He asked them to do.
Others can have their pampered lives and “babes” for now, “their best lives now”.
Why bother trying to explain it to them?
Yes sir!
I think you see the gulf between those who perceive the Will of God, and those who are stuck in their flesh and quite frankly are enemies of God.
The Lord will do whatever He pleases with whoever He wants.
Send me Lord - what they did is what every True Christian should strive for.
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