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‘It is time’ to help Ukraine hit bases in Russia: Victoria Nuland (a darn video)
ABC via Yahoo ^ | May 19th, 2024 | Victoria Nuland

Posted on 05/19/2024 2:05:49 PM PDT by Mariner

Advocates for the use of US Tactical Missiles (some nuclear capable) to hit Russian targets inside Russia proper.

There's more than one anti American, Ukrainian partisan on this site that supports her position 100%. And they'll be on this thread.

They don't care that it would result in direct war with Russia, as they think they can defeat Russia without burning the world to the ground.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globohomo; killkillkillforpeace; mic; queenofthezeepers; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; warmonger; wef; welfarewar; wwiii
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To: Mariner; bimboeruption; Rocco DiPippo
Hey, at least she finally admitted to being anti-American. Most of these zeepers are foreigners who hate Americans. I’ve been saying it all along.

Mariner says: “There’s more than one anti American, Ukrainian partisan on this site that supports her position 100%. And they’ll be on this thread.”

Zeeper responds: “You rang?”

21 posted on 05/19/2024 2:36:53 PM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: DuncanWaring

I kinda think you hit the nail on the head.

Most war supporters have never been to war or observed first hand how a war torn country is devastated in so many ways.

Video games and movies show death and destruction without the emotional trauma that sets in when this is encountered for real first hand.

They have no idea what it’s like to be without electricity, communications, food, safe water or plentiful gasoline.

They have no idea what it’s like to be sound asleep having pleasant dreams when awoken by an ear shattering explosion to realize the neighbor’s home was hit by a rocket and they are all dead.

Go nuclear and it’s 10 times worse than I described.

People trying to poke the bear into a large scale war are morons to the 10th power.


22 posted on 05/19/2024 2:37:10 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Rocco DiPippo; MeganC

Thanks Rocco for calling out a charlatan and a fraud.


23 posted on 05/19/2024 2:38:53 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DuncanWaring

Where did you hear Gulf War I and II were like a video game.


24 posted on 05/19/2024 2:39:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: kiryandil

Maybe she’ll get a polonium smoothie!


25 posted on 05/19/2024 2:46:11 PM PDT by curious7
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To: Mariner

It would be more damaging and useful to drop Victoria Nuland onto the bases.
They can have her.


26 posted on 05/19/2024 2:53:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Mariner

Maybe the Russians will put some missiles in Cuba.


27 posted on 05/19/2024 2:58:39 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: AndyJackson

I really never looked at it that way. I always looked at it as we are the best. I imagine Russia feels the same way too. Something to think about as the world gets more dangerous by the day.


28 posted on 05/19/2024 3:27:30 PM PDT by TermLimits4All ("If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.")
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To: dragnet2
Lets put a couple of tactical nukes on Moscow just to see what the Russians will do.

#FAFO with nukes. Sounds cool. Just multipy the find out scale by about 1,000,000. Could be they do nothing. Could be they launch a tidal wave up the Potomac. I am still trying to figure out the down side.

29 posted on 05/19/2024 3:35:43 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Mariner; MeganC
"The right question to ask is: How are US interests served by giving Ukraine permission to use US tactical missiles to strike mainland Russia?
Answer that one."

I'm pretty certain that she cannot.

30 posted on 05/19/2024 3:40:27 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: AndyJackson

Lets put a couple of tactical nukes on Moscow just to see what the Russians will do.

“”Sounds cool””

I just knew you’d think that was a good idea.


31 posted on 05/19/2024 3:51:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mariner

An incredibly dishonest woman. She’s even pushing the nonsensical idea that Putin wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union.


32 posted on 05/19/2024 3:55:39 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: curious7

That’s what I was hoping...


33 posted on 05/19/2024 4:18:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: dragnet2
Lets put a couple of tactical nukes on Moscow just to see what the Russians will do.

Sounds like a plan. Maybe we can have a nice chianti and a plate of fava beans with that.

34 posted on 05/19/2024 4:27:50 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: wildcard_redneck; Allegra

These FR Ukraine threads invariably make me feel like I’m in a bar at 2 AM - the few regular drunks in the place are acting the fool and saying their same stupid BS, and the management and sober customers are trying to talk sense to them, to no avail.


35 posted on 05/19/2024 4:29:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Good analogy. 😏


36 posted on 05/19/2024 4:33:51 PM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: Obadiah

Lots of people are pulling with all they have for a world war. They have seen too any WW II re0imagined movies, where Nazis are easy to kill and always miss when they shot at the heroes. They believe the fantasy war we have constructed. WW II was a hell hole. WW III will be worse. Why?
1. The Rule of unintentional Consequences. Things can go in very strange ways.
2. The People of 2024 are not like the people of 1941. It will be hard to get modern Americans on the same page. Obama’s divisions along race—helped him and Dems get elected but how many blacks will fight for America?
3. Filling the land with foreigners will make it hard to tell friend from foe. Why should they fight for their new land against their homeland? Loyalty isn’t in abundance today?
4. We have wasted our edge in distant empire building wars in the 3rd and 4th world. The enemy knows what we got and how we will use it.
5. We have pooped on our allies and many have left us. They see us as untrustworthy and no longer a paragon of virtue.
Many see China or Russia as more admired than the USa. We have become the Ugly Americans.
6. World war will dramatically change everything—some things for the better, many for the worst.


37 posted on 05/19/2024 4:43:49 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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To: Mariner
I am sorry that your Russian feelings are hurt. The best way that Russia can avoid further damage is to withdraw from Ukraine. Invading other countries isn't something one can do without consequences.

If the USA hadn't disarmed Ukraine in the 1990s Putin would never have been able to invade it in 2014 or now.

Providing weapons to Ukraine so that they can defend themselves is appropriate for any nation including the USA since it helps deter tyrants like Putin from attacking their neighbors.

Russians want to hide behind their border and launch rockets at Ukraine. Why shouldn't Ukraine shoot back?

It is in the best interest of the US and every other nation to provide arms so that nations can defend themselves from invasion.

38 posted on 05/19/2024 4:46:15 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: MeganC
Seriously, where is it written that Russia gets to start a war against anyone and those people don’t get to hit back at Russia?

Seriously, where is it written that a nation can supply military equipment to one side of an armed conflict without violating neutrality?

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10735

International Neutrality Law and U.S. Military Assistance to Ukraine

April 26, 2022

Congressional Research Service, Legal Sidebar

• the Hague Convention (V) Respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land (Hague V) and

• the Hague Convention (XIII) Respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers in Naval War (Hague XIII).

Under Hague V and XIII, neutral states cannot provide “ammunition, or war material of any kind whatever” to belligerents.


39 posted on 05/19/2024 4:47:03 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Many see China or Russia as more admired than the USa

You have been reading or listening to too many Russian propaganda talking points. Don't be fooled into believing what some Russian sitting in a cubicle in St. Petersburg wants you to believe.

40 posted on 05/19/2024 4:48:16 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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