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To: JonPreston
Jon Preston: "We are wasting our money and resources on this unwinnable war and Ukrainians are wasting their lives
Ukrainians don’t need more weapons‼️"

In 2022 Ukrainians won back roughly half the territory Vlad the Invader's forces had seized.

In 2023 Ukrainian victories included:

  1. Inflicting massive casualties, estimated at over 100,00 killed or seriously wounded, on Russian forces for no net gains in Russian controlled territories.
    Ukrainians estimate their own casualties at 1/3 of Russia's overall, about 1/10th during Russian insane "Meat Wave" assaults.

  2. Destruction and withdrawal of Russia's Black Sea Fleet from Crimea, including half a dozen major ships and over a dozen smaller Russian craft.

  3. Destruction of Russian transportation, supply and headquarters locations, forcing them to be moved back, ever further into Russia.

  4. Destructions in Russian air-defense and electronic warfare capabilities, while increasing Ukraine's own coverage.

  5. The beginnings of Ukraine's own defense-in-depth lines at points of expected Russian attacks.

  6. Perhaps most importantly, public acknowledgements by both the European Union and NATO that Ukraine is already part and will eventually become an official member.
For 2024, Republican House Speaker Johnson's insistence that there must, must be a plan for victory in Ukraine has already produced meetings in Washington with Ukrainian military leaders to review Ukraine's requirements for battlefield successes.
Whether those can be achieved in 2024 is as yet unknowable, however, Ukraine's list of requirements doubtless includes:

  1. Air dominance weapons -- i.e., F-16s maybe even obsolete A-10s?

  2. Massive numbers of mine-field clearing equipment and ordnance.

  3. Amphibious and river-crossing equipment.

  4. Improved air, missile & drone defenses.

  5. Longer range precision artillery, missiles & drones.

  6. Massively increased production of ordnance and other expendables.
I could go on speculating, but what's a fact is that Speaker Johnson's insistence on a plan for victory (however defined) is focusing attention of both Ukrainians and the West on making "the right stuff" happen.

Jon Preston: "They need negotiations and a new president‼️"

I absolutely 100% agree that Russians need to replace their insane leadership with others who will negotiate for:

  1. Removal of all Russian forces from, and recognition of, all of Ukraine's 2013 borders.

  2. Long term payments of reparations to Ukraine for the death & destruction caused by Russia's insane leadership.

  3. Acceptance of Ukraine's memberships in both the EU and NATO.

  4. Normalization of relations, plus trade & commerce, etc. in the Black Sea and elsewhere.
Finally, it's well worth remembering that this is how Americans won our War of Independence, after six years of fighting:

1781 Battle of the Cheasapeake, France defeated the British navy!
Vive la France!

206 posted on 12/18/2023 3:01:31 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
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#UkrainianIronCurtain - men in the #Ukraine r prohibited from leaving the country - #ZelenskyWarCriminal wants everyone ☠️. Anyone who tries to sneak out of this shit hole is hunted with drones & sent to… fight Russians!😂👇UkroNazi border guards proudly publish vid. #UkraineWar pic.twitter.com/SohubATLB8— Soror Inimicorum 🇷🇺🇺🇸☦️ (@SororInimicorum) December 18, 2023


207 posted on 12/18/2023 4:41:27 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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