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1 posted on 08/23/2023 11:26:01 AM PDT by george76
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We should follow this principle, never go where the gov’t wants you to go in an emergency or maybe at any time. Didn’t they have this same problem in Katrina? Common sense should be in order but a lot of times the crowd is wrong.


28 posted on 08/23/2023 11:44:20 AM PDT by Othniel77
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The gubmint knows what is good for you better than you. How many perished because they obeyed stupid people?


31 posted on 08/23/2023 11:46:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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Politics aside, that must've been absolutely horrific for everyone involved. The entire bunch of office holders, from Mayor on down, need to be held accountable.

But, they won't be. :(


32 posted on 08/23/2023 11:47:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Why would they barricade escape routes?
Unless they wanted people to be trapped.

39 posted on 08/23/2023 11:52:35 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Go ahead and fact check it:
Didn’t warn people with warning sirens
Turned off the water, even to fireman
Barricaded people from leaving disaster
Government benefited from death toll by taking property
Now media censorship and blaming on CO2 climate change.

There is absolutely no comparison to Katrina when:

People told to leave. Transportation available.
Nobody blocked exit
Nobody denied available services
Government didn’t benefit from death toll.
No censorship. Republicans to blame for climate change.

Liberals think Katrina worse but
This is probably the most preventable loss of life by negligent or malicious government in US history. It’s the poster child for why Socialism doesn’t work (paid for government services useless) and why it leads to censorship (government covering up facts) and government misdirection (climate change, not horrible decisions to blame).

Welcome to Fascist Government!!! “You will know them by what they do”


41 posted on 08/23/2023 11:53:49 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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Well, they couldn’t let the local riff-raff get into the richer areas of town. /s


43 posted on 08/23/2023 11:55:34 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Lesson learned. Never leave home unarmed.

Tell me I can’t get away from an inferno, and even declaring I have to turn around and go back?

If that’s really what happened, then it would be me shooting my way out of that inferno I suppose.

People who obeyed, died.


44 posted on 08/23/2023 11:56:17 AM PDT by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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MFM.


47 posted on 08/23/2023 12:00:31 PM PDT by OKSooner (Maybe Quix was right about some stuff. Pronouns=(XY, XYim, XY's))
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Short term PR problem over barricades killing off undesirables to make way for Schwabbville Beach, versus decades long evictions politics.

The NWO chose the first short term option.

49 posted on 08/23/2023 12:02:01 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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Absolutely ! The Maui County Poli e Dept directly caused many deaths by enforcing their stupid barricades . “ Just following orders” claimed the officers on the scene . People should have crashed the barricades and totally bolted , regardless. It will all come out noe , but too late for those who have died from this cop stupidity


53 posted on 08/23/2023 12:10:58 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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55 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:04 PM PDT by skimbell
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Having lived on Oahu...

I can confidently say Hawaii is run by the most incompetent racist scumbags available. And the idiot Hawaiians vote for them over and over. Just look at Mazzie. It is incurable stupidity running those islands and that’s how the people of Hawaii want it.


57 posted on 08/23/2023 12:12:15 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Did anyone cry out..”I can’t breath?”


64 posted on 08/23/2023 12:20:32 PM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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When government senses that things are spinning out of control, its instinct is to clamp down, asserting control in ways that make no sense or are actively harmful — all to maintain the narrative that We Are In Control. There was a lot of this after Katrina.

Loss of life is a misfortune to these people, but loss of control is the whole world. It’s why they exist.


69 posted on 08/23/2023 12:28:44 PM PDT by Romulus
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https://www.lahainanews.com/


71 posted on 08/23/2023 12:30:44 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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73 posted on 08/23/2023 12:31:44 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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I saw a couple videos about this. Only 2 roads out (?) and cops were blocking the main one and directing people back into the fire zone.

This needs to be front and center.

75 posted on 08/23/2023 12:35:56 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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Again no plan for evacuation and incompetent leadership


76 posted on 08/23/2023 12:52:54 PM PDT by The Great RJ ( )
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I learned a long long time ago to not be like sheep.


79 posted on 08/23/2023 1:02:29 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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Democrats are mass-murdering scum. Only the beginning.


82 posted on 08/23/2023 1:10:25 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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