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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Your advocacy of government is exemplary.

Skepticism about vast conspiracy theories isn't advocacy of government.

Among flaws in the decisions, another FR thread suggests:

That article represents a very poor understanding of adverse event data or dishonesty. Given the consistency with which Naomi misrepresents the data I suspect the latter.

Specifically, the article states:

"It reveals that Pfizer and the FDA knew in early 2021 that Pfizer’s mRNA COVID vaccine, BNT162b2, resulted in:"

But that's not true. Adverse events are ones that occur subsequent to a vaccination but are not assumed to be the result of the vaccination.

At least not by honest people.

In the case of a trial the adverse events are evaluated to see if they are occurring more frequently than one would expect in the population and events of concern are followed up on to see if there's a probable tie to the vaccine.

What the Daily Clout author fails to do is tie any of the events to the vaccines or to show the events are happening at a higher rate than in a similar unvaccinated population.

Adverse event data abuse is rampant among anti-vaxers and it's just stupid.

Did we notice influenza disappeared as a stat for some time?

Yes, we did, and given that we have extremely fast and simple antigen tests for influenza we can be confident that the disease really did disappear. (As an aside, my FIL got influenza B in late 2020 and was one of fewer than 100 recorded cases in my state.)

Yes, indeed. Many were denied alternative medical treatments, with some medications banned outright by the CDC/FDA in order to support the EUA, and many died from those now famous "co-morbidities," and then the 16 April 2020 methods were applied. We can discuss also the percentages of damage from kidney-impairing remdesivir, which apparently was part of Fauci's "gold standard" as he operated "in good faith."

The point is, we had over a million deaths in the US where Covid was the proximate cause.

...deaths due to Covid-19 in the US were documented as for times higher -- with all that "good faith" -- as many other nations in the world, particularly the third world generally outside the reach of "good faith."

Many were also outside the reach of effective public health surveillance. Based on excess death data global Covid deaths were vastly underreported.

"Msemburi and colleagues set out to estimate excess deaths from COVID-19 for every country in the world. The authors report that there were between 13.2 million and 16.6 million more deaths than expected in 2020 and 2021. This death toll was between 2.4 and 3.1 times higher than the officially reported number of COVID-19-related deaths."

Note that in the US the excess deaths very closely match the recorded Covid deaths.

109 posted on 04/30/2023 9:31:15 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
"Estimated." One of my favorite words, often cited by Democrats.

"Vast conspiracy theories." One of my favorite phrases, often used by Democrats.

"Vastly undereported." Well, dang. Can't trust the official data, eh?

But official data, not estimates from Nature magazine, suggest something else.

( 1,159,833 deaths in USA / 6,863,757 deaths worldwide ) x 100 = 16.9 percent of all Covid deaths worldwide in a population 4.19 percent of world population.

( USA population 336,553,188 / world population 8,030,498,005 ) x 100 = 4.19 percent of world population.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The "warp speed" mRNA. first world response to the WHO's declaration of a pandemic resulted in slightly over four times the deaths in the United States compared to most other nations and other populations.

Notice: I showed my arithmetic and sources.

Yeah, it's probably been an under-reported "event" brought to us by Moderna and Pfizer-BioTech. Skeptical of official data. Skeptical of basic arithmetic. Trusting of "estimates" and denigrating those who disagree with you by trotting out vocabulary such as "vast conspiracy" the characterize opposition to your advocacy reminds me of someone. A Democrat who ran against and lost toTrump some years back. Hmm.

110 posted on 04/30/2023 11:10:53 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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