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Chinese spy balloon crashed off Hawaii coast 4 months ago, US officials say
Fox News ^ | February 5, 2023 | Lucas Y. Tomlinson , Brooke Singman , Jessica Chasmar

Posted on 02/06/2023 5:24:44 AM PST by McGruff

A Chinese spy balloon crashed into the Pacific off the coast of Hawaii four months ago, U.S. officials say.

Fox News has also learned that at least one Chinese spy balloon flew over portions of Texas and Florida during the Trump administration, despite the former president's insistence it never happened.

The White House said that Biden followed the advice of the Pentagon and top military leaders not to shoot the craft down over the U.S. in case it caused civilian casualties and other collateral damage.

Biden administration officials claimed that Chinese surveillance balloons also briefly transited the continental U.S. at least three times during the Trump administration.

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1 posted on 02/06/2023 5:24:44 AM PST by McGruff
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“… Fox News has also learned that at least one Chinese spy balloon flew over portions of Texas and Florida during the Trump administration, despite the former president’s insistence it never happened.…”
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BULL CRAP! Prove it.


2 posted on 02/06/2023 5:27:15 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: McGruff

Send a spy balloon over China and see how they respond.


3 posted on 02/06/2023 5:28:27 AM PST by xp38
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To: House Atreides

Undetected!
So unless they got a back in Time machine...


4 posted on 02/06/2023 5:30:15 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: House Atreides
Which is worse,
5 posted on 02/06/2023 5:31:43 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (DemonRatz to Biden: You've outlived your uselessness. Buh-Bye!)
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To: McGruff

The national security establishment would not have informed Trump, lest he do something rash.


6 posted on 02/06/2023 5:32:01 AM PST by FarCenter
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So, either they’re lying, or they withheld critical information from the Trump administration.

Who’s surprised here...


7 posted on 02/06/2023 5:33:40 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: House Atreides
First...Are you telling me that none of this is classified??

What will the next balloon hold...now that China knows it won't be shot down over the continental USA?

So all China has to do is launch it from right here in the USA...since they own plenty of land here...which has to stop.

8 posted on 02/06/2023 5:33:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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It wouldn’t surprise me if five or six US guys have bought balloons and fake-looking antennas....to launch over Idaho and see how big a mess they can generate.


9 posted on 02/06/2023 5:35:24 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: McGruff

So, who to believe, Fox News or Trump? /s


10 posted on 02/06/2023 5:37:06 AM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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To: McGruff
I posted on another thread (updated):

You have one of thre options, because not only Trump and other admin officials including nutjob Bolton has denied this happened:

1. The story of the ballonos during the Trump administration is a lie. Based on the way DC/media has conducted itself at least since 2009, I tend to believe this.
2. The intelligence community and military knew, but did not report this. This in itself is a real problem because they are acting outside the chain of command. In this case, firings, courts martial, and prison are in the offing for dereliction of duty at the minimum.
3. Trump, Pompeo, Grennell, and Bolton are lying. The burden of proof is on the unnamed sources. I find this hard to believe because too often 'unnamed sources' with lack of proof translates to "we made it up".

So which is it?

11 posted on 02/06/2023 5:38:09 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: FarCenter

You left off a sarcasm tag.


12 posted on 02/06/2023 5:39:57 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: House Atreides
BULL CRAP! Prove it.

Also from Faux Newz:

A senior Biden administration source later told Fox that the balloons’ appearance during the Trump White House were only learned of after he left office.

“US intelligence, not the Biden administration,” determined that “PRC government surveillance balloons transited the continental US briefly at least three times during the prior administration and once that we know of at the beginning of this administration, but never for this duration of time,” the source said.

“This information was discovered after the [Trump] administration left,” the source said. “They went undetected.


13 posted on 02/06/2023 5:42:54 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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They might have been functioning properly and floating above 100,000 feet instead of at 65,000 feet.

Plus, would they have told Trump? The DoD kept stuff from Trump that they thought he would mishandle.


14 posted on 02/06/2023 5:47:22 AM PST by FarCenter
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Why not balloons if they work? Any thing to keep each other
concerned and trying to figure out what each is doing. Now
the process begins of trying to figure where it is located in
the water now. On the bottom, still floating around under
water, who knows.

A 100 yrs from now someone will be dragging the bottom of the
ocean, hook onto something, pull it up and wonder what the hell
is this.


15 posted on 02/06/2023 5:50:44 AM PST by deport
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To: Aevery_Freeman

(2).....................


16 posted on 02/06/2023 5:51:19 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

The Military hiding stuff from the President is treason................


17 posted on 02/06/2023 5:52:17 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: McGruff

“But Trump and top national security officials from his administration said that did not occur and criticized the Biden administration for spreading disinformation.

“This never happened. It would have never happened,” Trump told Fox News Digital on Sunday morning, adding that Beijing “respected us greatly” under his leadership.

“It never happened with us under the Trump administration, and if it did, we would have shot it down immediately,” Trump said. “It’s disinformation.”

Another article says that the balloons during the Trump administration went “undetected”. If they were “undetected” at that time how do they know about it now over 2 years later? Stories like this based on “anonymous” sources are usually just lies.


18 posted on 02/06/2023 5:56:33 AM PST by euram (allALL)
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To: pepsionice

*It wouldn’t surprise me if five or six US guys have bought balloons and fake-looking antennas....to launch over Idaho and see how big a mess they can generate.*

https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/1953-ufo-hoax-got-publicity-at-martian-monkeys-expense/


19 posted on 02/06/2023 5:57:37 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: McGruff

20 posted on 02/06/2023 5:57:53 AM PST by BBQToadRibs2
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