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To: CitizenUSA

“Russia is a historical Western country”

Err.. no it isn’t.

Russia or rather Muscowy is descended from the Mongol khaganate.

The Duke of Moscow, a vassal of Vkadimir-Suzdal, became the Golden Horde tax collector. Then, when the Golden horde split, the Grand Duke of Muscowy competed with the Khans of Astrskhan, Kazan etc to take over the lands of the Golden horde. Btw those Tatar khans became “Russian” aristocrats.

Then the Tsars of Muscowy went onwards to conquer the rest of the split khaganate , first the Jochi areas, then Chagatai with the conquest if Siberia, and finally with the Toluids, conquering Mongolia proper


61 posted on 12/22/2022 1:00:32 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: Cronos

We will have to disagree on that. Russia had/has far more in common with Europe than Asia.


101 posted on 12/22/2022 2:20:43 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Cronos

You got a link for your info, and you forgot the viking influence too


116 posted on 12/22/2022 4:14:50 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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