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Supreme Court ruling blows holes in Springfield’s (MA) 30-year-old restrictions on license-to-carry applications
MassLive.com ^

Posted on 08/01/2022 11:18:39 AM PDT by matt04

The impact of the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent landmark decision on firearms is reverberating throughout Massachusetts and in particular in Springfield where the Police Department found its decades-old practice of routinely restricting — or even denying — licenses to carry firearms was suddenly unconstitutional.

“With the new changes from the Supreme Court decision, that’s all gone,” said Deputy Police Chief William Cochrane.

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The concern among lawmakers is that Bruen will chip away at Massachusetts’ gun laws, considered among the toughest in the nation, that have been on the books for decades and longer in some instances. The first law giving the police chief to authority to grant or deny a license to carry dates back to 1906, for example.

“In Massachusetts, we have strong gun laws that save lives, and our license-to-carry statute has been a critical component to ensure public safety,” Healey said in her clarification to police. “I am proud to continue working with state law enforcement partners in vigorously enforcing our gun laws.”

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The previous policy, adopted in 2019, stated that applicants were required to have “good reason to fear injury” to their person or property before being issued a license to carry. Applicants also had to “articulate a reason to fear injury to himself or his property that diminishes him from the general population. The applicant must identify a specific need, that is, a need above and beyond a general desire to be safe.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; bruen; concerntroll; concerntrolls; creepstate; deepstate; massachusetts; nra; policestate; scotus; secondamendment; singlepartystate; springfield; williamcochrane
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To: Vermont Lt

I just checked their website and the requirement for a non-resident concealed carry permit still requires a good reason. Nazis without the character to admit it.


21 posted on 08/01/2022 11:52:20 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: matt04
The concern among lawmakers is that Bruen will chip away at Massachusetts’ gun laws, considered among the toughest in the nation, that have been on the books for decades and longer in some instances. The first law giving the police chief to authority to grant or deny a license to carry dates back to 1906, for example.

Wow, that's a long time.

Constitution was written even longer ago. Let's stick with it.

22 posted on 08/01/2022 11:54:14 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Nope, unless your a criminal on the streets.


23 posted on 08/01/2022 11:58:17 AM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: PapaBear3625

In Springfield the “crime” is pretty much contained to the drug gangs. There are parts of town I wouldn’t walk around as an old white guy. I spend a lot of time down town. I don’t feel unsafe, just hungry as most of the lunch spots have gone out of business.


24 posted on 08/01/2022 12:08:11 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: matt04

At least, from what I’ve read, MA is not defying SCOTUS by passing new requirements for concealed carry like NY is.


25 posted on 08/01/2022 12:22:44 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
MA is not defying SCOTUS by passing new requirements for concealed carry like NY is.

Not yet.

26 posted on 08/01/2022 12:23:56 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: hanamizu

I honestly thought Massachusetts would. I know the case was focused on New York City, but in Massachusetts you had cities like Worcester, Springfield, Boston and a lot of the little suburbs around there play the restriction game. Surprisingly, they basically complied and as of now, they’re not trying to put any new ones in place. That doesn’t mean they won’t in the future.


27 posted on 08/01/2022 1:08:32 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: matt04
decades-old practice of routinely restricting — or even denying — licenses to carry firearms was suddenly unconstitutional.

No, it was always unconstitutional but other Supreme Courts had ignored the Constitution or just made up their own rules.

“With the new changes from the Supreme Court decision, that’s all gone,”

Again, the Supreme Court didn't change the Constitution, they only clarified what is says.

28 posted on 08/01/2022 1:27:30 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, BY FAR, is that almost all of big media is agenda-driven, not-truth driven.)
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To: matt04
Springfield PD seems upset they will no longer to be able to deny residents their 2a rights

Yes, they were apparently enjoying their role in totalitarian government.

29 posted on 08/01/2022 1:28:26 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, BY FAR, is that almost all of big media is agenda-driven, not-truth driven.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Massachusetts’ gun laws, considered among the toughest in the nation,
= = =

How about a grudge match with CA’s gun laws?


30 posted on 08/01/2022 1:43:58 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
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To: matt04

My FOID card expired long ago. No plans to apply for another.


31 posted on 08/01/2022 2:04:31 PM PDT by roving (Blue Lives Matter More Than Children)
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To: matt04

More likely no longer able to shake down applicants to make “Donations” to the Sheriff’s election or “Widows and orphans fund”.


32 posted on 08/01/2022 2:10:20 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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To: Ex gun maker.

Exactly. If you knew the right people in the cities, you had no issue getting the permit you wanted with the right amount of, persuasion I mean donation, yeah that’s it.


33 posted on 08/01/2022 2:54:09 PM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: cgbg

It’s not hard. When you don’t see white people on the street, turn around.


34 posted on 08/01/2022 2:58:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: muir_redwoods

The same is true of my town. I don’t think these guys use the internet for anything but porn. But, the letter in my hand says “restrictions are unenforceable.”


35 posted on 08/01/2022 5:34:43 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Well….let’s not go crazy now. Of course not,

But, you can get pre-ban magazines all over the place. But you cannot buy a new AR15 in the PR of Mass.


36 posted on 08/01/2022 5:35:51 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I wish the Supreme Court had been more unequivocal.

As do I. I feel that Justice Thomas would, if he could. Unfortunately, decisions are themselves 'consensus documents', and he went as far as he could with the other squishes on the court. The court needs to find a good case to strike down the 1934 AND 1968 victim disarmament acts.

37 posted on 08/01/2022 9:03:49 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Seruzawa

I have told this story before...but for those who have not heard it.

I worked on a national virtual team before I retired and one of my co-workers (from North Dakota!) told me his son (who still lived at home at the time) was applying for a job in Springfield. MA and he wanted my opinion since he knew I lived in that general area. (In North Dakota anything within a hundred miles qualified as “local”. :-) )

I told him my opinion of the city (stay the ^%$# away!) but then I gave him practical advice if his son insisted on flying there for an interview.

I told his son to arrive a couple of hours early and spend that time driving in all directions around Springfield to see it for himself.

The kid followed my advice—and then ghosted the interview and flew back home!


38 posted on 08/02/2022 7:26:44 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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