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Prominent Conservatives say election was lost, not stolen (Not conservatives, RINOs and Never Trumpers)
Fox News ^ | July 14, 2022 | Mike Emanuel, Sally Personsl

Posted on 07/14/2022 10:05:20 PM PDT by CedarDave

A group of prominent conservatives released a new report Thursday outlining their investigation into the 2020 election and have concluded former President Trump's claims of a stolen election are unfounded. 

The report, "LOST NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election," was put together by three former federal judges and eight conservative leaders who investigated Trump's claims. 

Over the course of a year, the group looked at all 64 cases of the Trump campaign's fraudulent claims in six key states and concluded that there were no substantial instances of fraud that would have changed the election results. The report goes state by state and claim by claim, taking time to investigate each legal case. 

Fears of further damage to the electoral process drove the report, as allegations of fraud continue. Investigators said they fear that Trump supporters' unwillingness to see the election as lost could come back to haunt them if they flip the majority in the House and Senate this cycle. 

"I think there is a lack of recognition that that goes both ways and that, should Republicans take over, you're opening the door for Democrats to say the same thing, … ," Benjamin Ginsberg, an election attorney who has worked in Republican politics for decades, told FOX News. 

Ginsberg, along with former senators John Danforth and Gordon H. Smith and longtime Republican congressional chief of staff David Hoppe, as well as former Solicitor General Ted Olson and former federal appeals court judges Michael Luttig, Michael McConnell and Thomas Griffith concluded that there were no substantial claims of fraud to change the election.

The report acknowledges that changes in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic could have created opportunity for more fraud but found that was not the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2020election; benjaminginsberg; cedardave; davidhoppe; deepstate; disinformation; fauxnews; fraud; gaslighting; gordonhsmith; johndanforth; lies; michaelluttig; michaelmcconnell; neocons4biden; nevertrumpers; propaganda; rinos; tds; tedolson; thomasgriffith; trump
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To: Robert A Cook PE

81 million votes isn’t necessary, too time consuming, and would look suspicious. All one has to do is tamper with the code to make it count 2 or 3 for one for a particular candidate..................


61 posted on 07/15/2022 5:26:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: CedarDave

“2000 Mules” had a very different conclusion on the effects and impact on the results, concluding correctly that if not for the fraud, it would have been a Trump landslide in the Electoral College.

A lot of people still don’t understand-to swing an election dramatically in the electoral college, you don’t have to changed a lot of votes.

The number is relatively small. This fact has been known for years, but likely seems counterintuitive to many people, somewhat understandably.


62 posted on 07/15/2022 5:27:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: CedarDave
A group of prominent conservatives released a new report Thursday outlining their investigation into the 2020 election and have concluded former President Trump's claims of a stolen election are unfounded.

Looks like a whitewash to me, by the deep state. Why are so many working so hard to suppress information of massive scale voter fraud?

Their findings are superficial and shallow because they are ignoring a growing mountain of evidence that the election of 2020 was stolen by a vast left wing conspiracy, aided and abetted by Trump haters on both sides of the aisle.

This group of "prominent conservatives" are sounding like Baghad Bob.

63 posted on 07/15/2022 5:28:58 AM PDT by olezip
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To: cranked

Not sure I understand your post...are you saying you watched the “2000 Mules” documentary and viewed the other evidence and concluded the election was NOT stolen?


64 posted on 07/15/2022 5:31:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: rlmorel
What 2000 Mules did for me was put the finishing touches on why we always lose these arguments. Democrats cheat. We can all agree on this . The more time and space to do so means too many windows to shut, doors to close. Votes mishandled, duplicated, manufactured will always be a problem (somehow) just as long as Election Day is allowed to be a month(s?) long event.

MEDADA - Make Election Day A Day Again!

65 posted on 07/15/2022 5:51:05 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: rlmorel

“A lot of people still don’t understand-to swing an election dramatically in the electoral college, you don’t have to changed a lot of votes.”

True, that is how JFK won (graveyard vote in Chicago and corrupt pols in Texas). Nixon was told to shut up too. However, they really needed to cheat big this election. There is no hiding the scope of the theft if anyone would seriously look at it. Each battleground state gained around 500,000 extra dem voters (never happened in history or will happen again). The normal change of increase is around 10,000 - 20,000 votes, not several 100,000s.


66 posted on 07/15/2022 5:55:54 AM PDT by BushCountry (A properly cast vote (1 day voting) can save you $3.00 a gallon.)
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To: CedarDave

These “conservatives” are either utterly stupid or willing dupes. It’s quite obvious the 2020 election was stolen.


67 posted on 07/15/2022 6:49:40 AM PDT by devere
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To: Alberta's Child

Let the count begin....


68 posted on 07/15/2022 6:53:54 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: MarDav

I couldn’t be more in agreement with you than I already am.

I am appalled that there is this push to extend voting intervals to MONTHS.

This is an abomination, and is asking, begging for fraud.


69 posted on 07/15/2022 7:15:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: CedarDave

The false argument of “yielding to authority”.. because someone with perceived “authority” says something must mean its true..

There have been so many court cases in Wisconsin (one of the few states that have heard cases) that have declared so much of what went on Unconstitutional and Illegal in the 2020 election that I honestly have lost count...


70 posted on 07/15/2022 7:17:32 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: CedarDave

In other words a bunch of uniparty RINOs want to just maintain their seat at the table.


71 posted on 07/15/2022 7:32:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CedarDave

This is why we call it “Faux News”
As soon as the Democrats get is serious trouble, Faux digs up their list of fools to save the Democrats.


72 posted on 07/15/2022 7:35:58 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: CedarDave

“In light of 2000 Mules and other evidences, prove to me the 2020 election was NOT stolen....”

Does their report mention this movie? Did they even see it? The first thing that came to my mind upon hearing this is that this proves the Repub party was in on the steal.


73 posted on 07/15/2022 7:37:23 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“What they “investigated” were the counts, and not whether those ballots should have been counted to begin with. In Arizona Maricopa county, an independent audit found more than 77000 ballots that should have been THROWN OUT but were instead allowed to be counted. This was in just ONE county!”

I suspect you are correct. The count was accurate. The count included many ballots that should not have been counted.


74 posted on 07/15/2022 8:05:56 AM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: cpdiii

Who knows the actual truth.....

“These 18,000 ballots were received on Election Day prior to the deadline to cast a vote and delivered to Runbeck the next day for processing, following our standard operating procedure,” Ellington said. “Our role is to scan the envelopes and take an image of each signature on the ballot envelope so that Maricopa County can verify the signature of the voter.”

“Following the scanning and image capture, we return the ballots to Maricopa County for verification and tabulation,” Ellington said. “Ballot envelopes are never opened or tabulated at Runbeck Election Services.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-maricopa-18000/fact-check-no-evidence-maricopa-county-accepted-18000-ballots-after-2020-election-day-idUSL1N2XV2AI


75 posted on 07/15/2022 8:20:17 AM PDT by deport
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To: CedarDave

Even if you close your eyes to the cheating how about FB’s involvement and what the media/elites did on Hunters laptop?


76 posted on 07/15/2022 8:47:31 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: antceecee
"We all know it was a stolen election so stop with the gaslighting!"

They're gonna need a bigger gaslight.
77 posted on 07/15/2022 9:19:13 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: CedarDave

All I can say is 2000 Mules.


78 posted on 07/15/2022 9:36:32 AM PDT by Rappini
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To: CedarDave
So all of the people on "our" side who were in on the steal are adamant that the steal didn't happen.

This is my shocked face. :-/
79 posted on 07/15/2022 9:39:14 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: wardaddy

I knew I had seen Danforth somewhere. Waco whitewash, yep.


80 posted on 07/15/2022 3:06:57 PM PDT by Tymesup
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