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Shooter Fired Shots For 12 Minutes Outside The School Before Going In, Official Says
Daily Caller ^ | 05/26/2022 | Brianna Lyman

Posted on 05/26/2022 3:49:06 PM PDT by thegagline

The suspected gunman who slaughtered 19 students and two teachers Tuesday at a Texas elementary school fired shots outside the school for 12 minutes before entering, an official said.

Eighteen-year-old Salvador Ramos spent approximately 12 minutes outside of Robb Elementary School firing shots before he walked into the school and barricaded himself in a classroom, Regional Director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, Victor Escalon, said Thursday, according to The Wall Street Journal (WSJ).

Escalon was unable to provide any answers Thursday as to why no one stopped Ramos from entering the school, the WSJ reported.

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State authorities, including the Texas Rangers, are investigating the Uvalde Police Department amid concerns and questions that officers did not respond quickly enough. Officers were present throughout the attack, with many standing in the parking lot during the 30-60 minute period in which Ramos opened fire. Authorities did not breach the classroom until a staff member gave them a key to unlock the door, the Associated Press (AP) reported.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; childrenbledout; copslied; crime; mominhandcuffs; parentstazed; police; texas; uvalde
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To: OKSooner

And Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson would have showed up with his trunk full of heavy weaponry and his 30 30.


61 posted on 05/26/2022 5:37:51 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: dragnet2

It keeps changing, and funny, they haven’t released tapes of the 911 calls. If the shooter was taking shots at the funeral home (and other targets) for 12 minutes before entering the school, it’s certain that the local 911 call center lit up like a Christmas tree. That would be enough to send every available cop to the scene, and in a town of 16,000—at that time of day—they should have arrived on the scene in less than five minutes.

And sadly, it looks like most of the local cops were more concerned about securing the perimeter than entering the school and taking out the bad guy. This same “regional director” said today that calls went out for additional weapons, body armor and hostage negotiators (you read that right), as kids were being slaughtered in the classroom. If the director is right, the Uvalde police department didn’t have enough weaponry to go after the bad guy, and no one could find someone with a master key to open the door. Never mind the fact that the principal had one, as did the assistant principal, janitor and (likely) several teachers.
If you buy that story about the key, I can give you a great deal on a bridge in Brooklyn.


62 posted on 05/26/2022 5:44:00 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: cornfedcowboy

Retired 40 years fire service - with the right tool I would have been through that door in seconds!


63 posted on 05/26/2022 5:49:35 PM PDT by Species8472 (People must know!)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
If you buy that story about the key, I can give you a great deal on a bridge in Brooklyn.

After hearing about the need for a key I am pretty confused myself. How does a no-knock warrant work? Does the police SWAT team drop by the day before and ask the resident for a copy of their key?

64 posted on 05/26/2022 5:52:23 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Magnum44

HEY MAG,
You are absolutely right, as always. I add only this, back in the 80’s I was living in Israel. 2 gunmen (politically motivated, dedicated to their cause, with a different set of principles, utterly ruthless, young enough to not ask, “Where’s the part in this plan that says I get away?), stormed a school up North, took a single classroom, immediately killed the male teacher, had no concern at all for the terrified young female assistant, and waited for the inevitable armed response. They had over 20 children, and the terrified young teacher’s assistant as hostages. As they became lax about covering the young aide, and both apparently were looking out the window, she drew her 9mm and killed them both. Then kept the door barricaded, because she didn’t know if they were the only ones or there were others.

In the end, the male teacher was the only casualty!

Our teachers need to be trained and armed. There are plenty of combat vets, preferably infantry, that need to be posted at our schools. It will upset our children? Not nearly as much as a mass shooting! A well armed IMMEDIATE response force is realistically required. Anyone that doesn’t see that is part of the problem.

KEEP THE FAITH.


65 posted on 05/26/2022 5:54:54 PM PDT by TigerHawk (The Raised Middle Finger in the Clenched Fist of the World)
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To: thegagline

The whole argument of the left is that the government can protect you...FROM EVERYTHING. But they can’t...or worse still, they WON’T.


66 posted on 05/26/2022 5:57:53 PM PDT by comps4spice (Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcomes --Charlie Munger)
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To: Chainmail
How effective were cops at Columbine or Parkland?

When Columbine happened (before 9/11) the SOP was to treat these events as possible hostage situations.

Columbine changed everything. After Columbine, after all the data had been compiled, the new SOP was to ENGAGE THE SHOOTER!

Parkland failed and Uvalde has just been a catastrophe of inept police response.

67 posted on 05/26/2022 6:01:09 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: thegagline

Students murdering students. A big congratulatory shout out to the maggots down at the NEA. You’re doing a great job folks. Grooming our kids for the pedophile politicians and training selected retarded students to engage in mass killings of their fellow students. Great job!!!!


68 posted on 05/26/2022 6:12:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump.)
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To: thegagline
When seconds count, Police are only minutes away.

The mayor of Uvalde, TX, is a white Republican male, which is kind of incredible since Uvalde is 82% Hispanic.

The mayor has previously appeared on Tucker Carlson several times to discuss the immigration issue on the Texas border.

My question...

In Texas, is the mayor the chief executive officer of law enforcement in Uvalde?

Or, does that executive authority come from the county or state level?

69 posted on 05/26/2022 6:15:08 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: OKSooner

America is not what it once was, nor is Texas what it once was.


Back in the 50s, the inmates at the Missouri Penitentiary rioted and took over the prison. Word got out and soon the residents of Jefferson City had their rifles ready, surrounded the prison waiting for the first inmate who tried to get over the wall. You’re right, America is not what it once was.


70 posted on 05/26/2022 6:25:16 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: TigerHawk

“Our teachers need to be trained and armed.”

__________

99% of teachers would run screaming if someone merely show them a photograph or video of a firearm. Guns kill people is all they know.


71 posted on 05/26/2022 6:48:43 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: thegagline

Probably already said by someone... but

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Then they get there and WAIT! DO NOTHING.

You going in? Not ME, are you? Hell no, I’m about to collect my pension. Lets wait for SWAT.


72 posted on 05/26/2022 6:54:11 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: one guy in new jersey

good ... we need those kind of teachers out of the system ... they dominate the industry because entry is controlled by the left via the education and certification process ... incestual ... educators birthing educators ... let them run ... we need a different kind of teacher for our kids ...


73 posted on 05/26/2022 6:59:07 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: dragnet2

Many points of the timeline were discussed on War Room this morning — Steve Bannon and Bernie Kerick. This 12-minute interval was included. The whole segment was interesting.


74 posted on 05/26/2022 7:11:30 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Jesus took my burden and left me with a song.)
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To: thegagline

Werent there windows to break ???


75 posted on 05/26/2022 7:13:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Robe

Wouldnt Grandma have gone in the front door like everyone else ???


76 posted on 05/26/2022 7:14:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dragnet2

Regardless, you can’t count on the police to save your or your children’s lives.


77 posted on 05/26/2022 7:41:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Husker24

They obviously did not want to. It wasn’t their children being systematically slaughtered.


78 posted on 05/26/2022 7:43:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: thegagline

The doors to both the school and the classroom were unlocked. Never should have been.

And they remain unlocked with someone outside the school firing shots for 12 minutes???


79 posted on 05/26/2022 8:11:46 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: dragnet2

“I find that a bit odd, and I’ve reviewed 2 or 3 timelines.”

Do you kinda get the impression that they’re trying to muddy the water until it’s “old news” that the media can ignore?


80 posted on 05/26/2022 8:14:37 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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