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Harrowing video shows Texas cops RESTRAINING parents outside elementary school shooting and telling them 'we're taking care of it': Cops took up to 90 minutes to get inside classroom where gunman had trapped kids 'because they needed a key'
Daily Mail (UK) ^

Posted on 05/26/2022 6:51:59 AM PDT by TigerClaws

Shocking new video has emerged showing Texas cops restraining parents as they tried to rescue their kids on Tuesday after a gunman unleashed terror inside the elementary school, as questions grow over why it took so long to get to the shooter after the first 911 call.

Salvador Ramos, 18, arrived at the school in Uvalde at 11.30am, crashing his car into a ditch.

A school resource officer was at the scene but he failed to stop him from making his way inside.

Two other cops also rushed to the school at that time - Ramos had just shot his grandmother in the face at their home less than five miles away. She survived and called the police.

When they arrived, Ramos is said to have shot at them then ran into the school, where he barricaded himself in the fourth grade classroom and shot 19 kids and two teachers dead.

It took another 90 minutes from that point for police to declare the shooting over.

Now, sources say police were struggling to get into the classroom and needed a key to open the door.

Eventually, a border patrol agent was able to get inside and the shooting was declared over at 1.06pm.

But it questions remain over why it took police so long to get into the classroom where the kids were trapped with the gunman.

One child told KENS 5 that he was able to hide under a desk, but that a girl who yelled out 'help' when police arrived was executed.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: mbj
I agree, and the "wrongful death liabilty" angle if a hair was harmed on a kiddo no doubt played a big role in the "go slow" approach. (While any wounded children slowly bled out, waiting for rescue.)

But why no mirrors on sticks up into the back windows? Room 111 and 112 were two rooms with a connecting door. The killer could only be in one room at a time. Why no use of back windows, via tiny mirrors, even? Why the sole focus on the TWO classroom doors? Retardation?

This is not rocket science. You can make one of these with a car mirror and tape in one minute. Then you safely peak into the TWO classrooms, to see which ONE the shooter was in at the time.


441 posted on 05/27/2022 1:57:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: mbj

I know a high school here where the Principal has an impressive collection and is a good shot too. One of his Assistant Principals is also a badass... my wife. A campus aide is a former Marine and a consultant for the SWAT TV series. I know at least these 3 would not hesitate to act.


442 posted on 05/27/2022 2:00:46 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: jpp113

I’m glad they are so well prepared, but I strongly hope they are never called upon to use them in anger.


443 posted on 05/27/2022 2:11:06 PM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj
No.

However, militerized, skinheaded, badge heavy thugs, with one hand on their Glock, who use their "command voice" to demand a driver's licence from a traffic stop for a burned out licence plate bulb have gone a long way toward destroying whether anyone cares if ALL cops get a bullet in the face.

When cops were real vets, instead of the high school bully, who used to set small animals on fire, they had a lot more support, rather than the almost justified "Defund the police" they whine about. Those vets wouldn't have blinked about whether or not to stop a crazy.

Perhaps even ratting out the the corrupt, trigger happy goons they work with, before they joined the SWAT team?

Something to ponder.

444 posted on 05/27/2022 2:42:32 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: mbj
"Do we even know for sure that the 19 kids were still alive at that point?"

At this point, we really don't know much of anything, because the shooter wasn't white. The media can't even bring themselves to describe him as "hispanic." When George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin, they labeled him "white hispanic." About the only news outlet that's actually dug a bit into his life is the U.K. Daily Mail. They are usually the ones to look to for what the main stream media refuses to cover. They're not perfect, but they are more motivated to dig for info than any U.S. news outlets.

445 posted on 05/27/2022 2:43:16 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

“Do we even know for sure that the 19 kids were still alive at that point?”


There were 19 law enforcement officers assembled outside the hallway at 12:05. A few minutes later (I forget the exact time) a student in the room called 911 to report 8 or 9 students still alive. Shots could be heard in another call later at 12:21. The door was breached at 12:50.


446 posted on 05/27/2022 2:53:22 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: mbj

As do I, obviously.

I have told her that if the SHTF and they have big trouble, I will be there in a heartbeat. My tactical bag is always packed and the house is right on the way from my work to the school


447 posted on 05/27/2022 2:54:53 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: jonascord

> militerized, skinheaded, badge heavy thugs, with
> one hand on their Glock, who use their “command voice”

Your sincerer anger at be unjustly treated does not automatically prove that the authorities staged these murders.

In fact, I believe I have been even more unjustly treated by the police myself. But that does not lead me to hastily believe bad things without evidence, without witnesses who are really qualified to know what they are talking about, who don’t have a hidden agenda, who are consistent and who are corroborated. I strongly encourage you to do as much fact checking and critical thinking as you possibly can within the time and resources available.

I’m sorry that you’ve been mistreated and have suffered unjustly. But that doesn’t mean _every_ police officer is equally responsible or equally bad; nor does it mean that this thing was faked or staged - that’s what I was originally responding to.


448 posted on 05/27/2022 2:57:59 PM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj

Have you ever driven in LA traffic?


449 posted on 05/27/2022 3:13:19 PM PDT by Pelham (World War III is entering on cat's feet.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Yep


450 posted on 05/27/2022 3:14:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Gideon7

Thanks for the info.


451 posted on 05/27/2022 3:20:39 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Pelham

:-D

Presumably there might be a police helicopter or two, though?

Point taken.


452 posted on 05/27/2022 5:09:47 PM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj
What if every department polled their officers for the goof who belongs on the street, rather than the guy no one else wants to work with? And then fire that psycho?

I've bought two "cops," and watched too many others walk away from felonies. Like the Mayberry who rolled his car, on I-40, in front of me, gutter crawling drunk, and when his buds showed up they gave him a ride home to sleep it off? One thanked me for stopping to see if I could help.
Or the departments who run ticket traps, or pick out RVs to confiscate, and will return for a small cash fee?

You aren't sorry that I've been "unjustly treated." You're sorry I remember it. I'm a big fan of taking all body armor away, so you don't feel like Clark Kent, and making the issue side arm a revolver, with ONE reload. Might help with the "Us vs All Civilians" attitude. Uvalde has apply demonstrated that getting home for dinner is Job One. (I've been there, by the way. It's the Back End of Beyond. An hour from the nonexistent border.)

As to the OP, this school has had 48 lockdown alerts, THIS YEAR, and no security? The PD and the hoplophobic Communists running that indoctrination factory share the guilt for this horror.

453 posted on 05/27/2022 5:16:48 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: mbj

I see the main issue as one of hardening schools as targets. I suspect every school district will come up with different ways to accomplish that. In some cases arming teachers, in others hiring security, or expanding SRO programs making those perhaps more attractive with inducements for trained deputies and officers to sign on.

While I mentioned that one alternative of arming teachers I believe there are probably many approaches that can be tried.


454 posted on 05/27/2022 5:22:05 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: jonascord

Don’t you ever presume to read my mind. You don’t know me and you are ignorant of my past.

> You aren’t sorry that I’ve been “unjustly treated.”
> You’re sorry I remember it.


455 posted on 05/27/2022 5:58:45 PM PDT by mbj
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To: mbj
Don't delude yourself. I grew up with it. I've known a lot of LEOs.
Listening when my father would invite his police pistol team to decompress over a bottle of Cutty.
Running field com for the MPs at Pendleton and on Oki.
Working security on campus, after, liaising with the Chicago PD.
Range officer for the local city, county and tribal in Oklahoma.
Best friend, was up for the next open slot with the OHP when he was killed in a motorbike accident.

Watching it change over the years.

456 posted on 05/27/2022 7:48:08 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: mbj

Oh please...


457 posted on 05/27/2022 8:31:13 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: mbj
said, "Steve takes the flimsiest pretext to generalize an attack on the authorities"

The initial report by the school:
https://archive.ph/Y9z4t

In other words there was a shooting in the parking lot. Other reports said the shooter in the parking lot was apprehended when a concealed carry person hit him before he entered the building. Moment after the pic of him at the door.
We can confirm this with news reports showing blood and a trauma aftermath at the door.

It does not seem like the shooter made it inside the building.
HOW did 17 people die if he never made it into the building?
458 posted on 05/28/2022 2:29:19 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: HereInTheHeartland; mbj

“This has markings of a planned “event”“
Keep the conspiracy bull$hit away.
That garbage is for kooks.
FR is not a place for kooks. ... Conspiracy theories are for weak minded people.


I've already pointed out that you mbj also make conspiracy bull$hit. It doesn't matter that you where proven correct on that conspiracy on blood clotting. It was a conspiracy based on information you where given.

Are you saying that the initial reports of the shooter in the parking lot wasn't stopped by a concealed permit person at the door of the school? If the information is incorrect.
Why was their signs of a trauma event at the same door?
Why would the school leave the door unlocked when there was a shooting that took place for twenty minutes in the parking lot?

Am I correct? Does it matter? Either way it's conspiracy bull$hit to believe the initial information was correct and what took place later was the "truth"
459 posted on 05/28/2022 3:38:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Your post gave the impression that somehow the shooting was a government encouraged plot .
That’s sick. And wrong
But at this point there is too much incorrect information out for any us to know exactly what happened.
Obviously there was gross incompetency by law enforcement at the least.

It seems the lessons of Columbine were not learned by law enforcement.
And that sucks.


460 posted on 05/28/2022 4:18:44 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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