Ukraine needs Ukrainian heroes alive: Zelensky spoke about the evacuation of azovstal defenders

On Monday, May 16, some of the defenders of the azovstal iron and steel works were taken to the temporarily occupied territory of Donetsk region. Subsequently, they will be exchanged for prisoners of the Russian invaders.

This information was confirmed by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky during a video message to the Ukrainian people (to view it, scroll to the end of the page). Among the soldiers there are seriously wounded, they are receiving medical assistance.

"Thanks to the actions of the Ukrainian military – the Armed Forces of Ukraine, intelligence, as well as the negotiation group, the International Committee of the Red Cross and the UN, we hope that we will be able to save the lives of our children...I want to emphasize that Ukraine needs Ukrainian heroes alive. This is our principle. I think that every adequate person will understand these words," the head of state said. Video of the day

He noted that the work on the return of Ukrainian soldiers home continues. This work requires delicacy and time.

Note that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reported the following: 53 seriously wounded Ukrainian soldiers were evacuated from Azovstal to a medical facility in Novoazovsk. Another 211 people were taken to Yelenovka via the humanitarian corridor.

For the subsequent return of Fighters home, an exchange procedure will be carried out.

Zelensky also said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are holding back constant attacks in those areas where Russia is still trying to attack. According to him, Severodonetsk and other cities of Donbass are still the main target for the invaders.

"We are doing everything possible to protect our land and our people," he stressed.

Earlier, the commander of the Azov Regiment, Denis Prokopenko, whose military personnel are on the defensive at Azovstal, appealed to the Ukrainian people. He recalled that for 82 days the defenders of Mariupol held the defense and pulled back significant enemy forces in order to allow Ukraine to gain time and get Western weapons.

Now the entire Mariupol garrison" for the sake of saving lives fulfills the approved decision of the high military command " and asks Ukrainians for support.

Subsequently, Reuters reported that about ten buses left the territory of the azovstal iron and steel works, filled with evacuated people. Among them are military personnel who were seriously injured. It was reported that they were taken to the temporarily occupied Novoazovsk in the Donetsk region.

As reported by OBOZREVATEL, the mother of the defender of Mariupol spoke about the terrible situation at the azovstal iron and steel works. According to her, amputations of wounded soldiers are performed without anesthesia, since there are no medicines.

JFK was reacting to Russia putting nukes 90 miles from our shores. I

The Soviet Union installed missiles in Cuba in response to the United States installing nuclear 45 Jupiter ballistic missiles in Italy and Turkey, with 15 more planned. The Soviet Union and the United States each removed its nuclear missiles as part of the resolution of the crisis.

Under international law, the Monroe Doctrine and the Polk Doctrine have no standing whatever. Russia has the same lawful authority to object to NATO in Ukraine, as the United States has to object to Russia in Cuba. Legally, none.

The Axis forces came through Ukraine to enter Russia in WW2. They are sensitive about their losses in WW2 which amounted to about 25 million dead. Where the United States claims two continents as a buffer zone, Russia claims the immediate area surrounding Russia. Each side defends its buffer zone not by right of law, but by military force. Our doctrines not only tell the Europeans that are prohibited from establishing any military installation in the Americas, it tells all the nations of the Americas that they are prohibited from permitting any such installation upon their sovereign territory.

Cuba was reacting to the United States invading Cuba at the Bay of Pigs and attempting to overthrow the government of a sovereign nation. The blatant invasion was a blatant provocation. After that, Cuba sought a relationship with the Soviet Union.
***Uhh, the whole reason for the invasion was that Cuba was cozying up to the USSR. But why should any of us care about how you try to draw parallels as a putinist apologist? Your kool-aid breath is detectable from here.

Under international law, the Monroe Doctrine and the Polk Doctrine have no standing whatever.
***Yup. It’s baffling why the things are called doctrines in the first place.

Russia has the same lawful authority to object to NATO in Ukraine, as the United States has to object to Russia in Cuba. Legally, none.
***Yup. America was wrong when it invaded Cuba. Russia is wrong when it invaded Ukraine. Pretty simple stuff, except for Putinistas.

The Axis forces came through Ukraine to enter Russia in WW2. They are sensitive about their losses in WW2 which amounted to about 25 million dead.
***Russia helped to START ww2 by cutting Poland in half and invading from their side. Why should I care how many dead Russians resulted from the war they helped to start? Only apologists bring that crap up about how many losses they suffered. They shoulda suffered more, if you ask the Poles.

Where the United States claims two continents as a buffer zone,
***What are you talking about? We claim 2 OCEANs as a buffer zone.

Russia claims the immediate area surrounding Russia.
***There are no souls living in our buffer zone. Russia claiming hegemony over millions of souls and their land/oil/gas/grain/resources is just a straightforward assertion of conquest.

Each side defends its buffer zone not by right of law, but by military force.
***The US asserts military force into the 2 oceans of buffer zone? Do you listen to yourself and how much 🐂💩 bullshiite you put out?

Our doctrines not only tell the Europeans that are prohibited from establishing any military installation in the Americas, it tells all the nations of the Americas that they are prohibited from permitting any such installation upon their sovereign territory.
***Yeah, so what? Your point is muffled by your 🐂💩

You ask, I answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc

This war is about oil & gas reserves. The last time we had an oppressive regime invade their neighbor over oil & gas, an international coalition kicked his ass back to Iraq.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts

also:

Why Russia wants to invade Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts

The Russians weren’t even interested in eastern Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.

In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.

But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.

This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc

If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.

What are you talking about? We claim 2 OCEANs as a buffer zone.

You're factually incorrect. Per the National Archives:

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The Monroe Doctrine was articulated in President James Monroe's seventh annual message to Congress on December 2, 1823. The European powers, according to Monroe, were obligated to respect the Western Hemisphere as the United States' sphere of interest.

President James Monroe’s 1823 annual message to Congress contained the Monroe Doctrine, which warned European powers not to interfere in the affairs of the Western Hemisphere.

Understandably, the United States has always taken a particular interest in its closest neighbors – the nations of the Western Hemisphere. Equally understandably, expressions of this concern have not always been favorably regarded by other American nations.

The Monroe Doctrine is the best known U.S. policy toward the Western Hemisphere. Buried in a routine annual message delivered to Congress by President James Monroe in December 1823, the doctrine warns European nations that the United States would not tolerate further colonization or puppet monarchs. The doctrine was conceived to meet major concerns of the moment, but it soon became a watchword of U.S. policy in the Western Hemisphere.

The Monroe Doctrine was invoked in 1865 when the U.S. government exerted diplomatic and military pressure in support of the Mexican President Benito Juárez. This support enabled Juárez to lead a successful revolt against the Emperor Maximilian, who had been placed on the throne by the French government.

Almost 40 years later, in 1904, European creditors of a number of Latin American countries threatened armed intervention to collect debts. President Theodore Roosevelt promptly proclaimed the right of the United States to exercise an "international police power" to curb such "chronic wrongdoing," in his so-called Roosevelt Corollary (or extension) to the Monroe Doctrine.

While the Monroe Doctrine’s message was designed to keep European powers out of the Western Hemisphere, Roosevelt would strengthen its meaning to justify sending the United States into other countries of the Western Hemisphere. As a result, U.S. Marines were sent into Santo Domingo in 1904, Nicaragua in 1911, and Haiti in 1915, ostensibly to keep the Europeans out. Other Latin American nations viewed these interventions with misgiving, and relations between the “great Colossus of the North” and its southern neighbors remained strained for many years.

In 1962, the Monroe Doctrine was invoked symbolically when the Soviet Union began to build missile-launching sites in Cuba. With the support of the Organization of American States, President John F. Kennedy threw a naval and air quarantine around the island. After several tense days, the Soviet Union agreed to withdraw the missiles and dismantle the sites. Subsequently, the United States dismantled several of its obsolete air and missile bases in Turkey.

____

And from the 1823 annual message of President Monroe, in more explicit terms: "We owe it, therefore, to candor and to the amicable relations existing between the United States and those powers to declare that we should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety. With the existing colonies or dependencies of any European power we have not interfered and shall not interfere, but with the Governments who have declared their independence and maintained it, and whose independence we have, on great consideration and on just principles, acknowledged, we could not view any interposition for the purpose of oppressing them, or controlling in any other manner their destiny, by any European power in any other light than as the manifestation of an unfriendly disposition toward the United States...Our policy in regard to Europe, which was adopted at an early stage of the wars which have so long agitated that quarter of the globe, nevertheless remains the same, which is, not to interfere in the internal concerns of any of its powers; to consider the government de facto as the legitimate government for us; to cultivate friendly relations with it, and to preserve those relations by a frank, firm, and manly policy, meeting in all instances the just claims of every power, submitting to injuries from none. But in regard to those continents circumstances are eminently and conspicuously different. It is impossible that the allied powers should extend their political system to any portion of either continent without endangering our peace and happiness; nor can anyone believe that our southern brethren, if left to themselves, would adopt it of their own accord. It is equally impossible, therefore, that we should behold such interposition in any form with indifference. If we look to the comparative strength and resources of Spain and those new Governments, and their distance from each other, it must be obvious that she can never subdue them. It is still the true policy of the United States to leave the parties to themselves, in the hope that other powers will pursue the same course."

A claim not just of oceans as a buffer zone, and not merely of continents: but the entirety of the Western Hemisphere, insofar as it involved territories which were not already colonies or dependencies of European powers.

Where the United States claims two continents as a buffer zone,
***What are you talking about? We claim 2 OCEANs as a buffer zone.
Russia claims the immediate area surrounding Russia.
***There are no souls living in our buffer zone. Russia claiming hegemony over millions of souls and their land/oil/gas/grain/resources is just a straightforward assertion of conquest.
Each side defends its buffer zone not by right of law, but by military force.
***The US asserts military force into the 2 oceans of buffer zone? Do you listen to yourself and how much ???? bullshiite you put out?

You show your typical ability to blather without knowing what you are talking about. I see it is time to water the plant again.

Two CONTINENTS are not two OCEANS.

I said we claim two CONTINENTS. Learn to read. We have two oceans as a natural barrier. If you do not think the United States asserts military force into the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, you must be unaware of the U.S. Navy and the Coast Guard. Nobody claims the two oceans. They are just there. To get from there to here, the ocean must be crossed. We claim territorial waters which includes coastal waters of the ocean for 12 miles.

Black's Law Dictionary, 11th Ed., 2019

Monroe Doctrine. (1850) The principle that the United States will allow no intervention or domination in the Western Hemisphere by any non-American country.

- - - - - - - - - -

Polk Doctrine. Int'l Law. The principle by President James K. Polk that the Monroe Doctrine (dating from 1823) remained sound and that the United States would oppose any European interference in North America. Cf. MONROE DOCTRINE.

Ultra Sonic 007 quoted the Monroe Doctrine at #110.

Below is the Polk Doctrine, reaffirming and extending the Monroe Doctrine, from Polk's First Annual Address to Congress of December 2, 1845.

https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/december-2-1845-first-annual-message

[excerpt]

It is well known to the American people and to all nations that this Government has never interfered with the relations subsisting between other governments. We have never made ourselves parties to their wars or their alliances; we have not sought their territories by conquest; we have not mingled with parties in their domestic struggles; and believing our own form of government to be the best, we have never attempted to propagate it by intrigues, by diplomacy, or by force. We may claim on this continent a like exemption from European interference. The nations of America are equally sovereign and independent with those of Europe. They possess the same rights, independent of all foreign interposition, to make war, to conclude peace, and to regulate their internal affairs. The people of the United States can not, therefore, view with indifference attempts of European powers to interfere with the independent action of the nations on this continent. The American system of government is entirely different from that of Europe. Jealousy among the different sovereigns of Europe, lest any one of them might become too powerful for the rest, has caused them anxiously to desire the establishment of what they term the "balance of power." It can not be permitted to have any application on the North American continent, and especially to the United States. We must ever maintain the principle that the people of this continent alone have the right to decide their own destiny. Should any portion of them, constituting an independent state, propose to unite themselves with our Confederacy, this will be a question for them and us to determine without any foreign interposition. We can never consent that European powers shall interfere to prevent such a union because it might disturb the "balance of power" which they may desire to maintain upon this continent. Near a quarter of a century ago the principle was distinctly announced to the world, in the annual message of one of my predecessors, that—
The American continents, by the free and independent condition which they have assumed and maintain, are henceforth not to be considered as subjects for colonization by any European powers.
This principle will apply with greatly increased force should any European power attempt to establish any new colony in North America. In the existing circumstances of the world the present is deemed a proper occasion to reiterate and reaffirm the principle avowed by Mr. Monroe and to state my cordial concurrence in its wisdom and sound policy. The reassertion of this principle, especially in reference to North America, is at this day but the promulgation of a policy which no European power should cherish the disposition to resist. Existing rights of every European nation should be respected, but it is due alike to our safety and our interests that the efficient protection of our laws should be extended over our whole territorial limits, and that it should be distinctly announced to the world as our settled policy that no future European colony or dominion shall with our consent be planted or established on any part of the North American continent.

And then there was the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine.

https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/roosevelt-corollary [Excerpt, Theodore Roosevelt’s Annual Message to Congress, December 6, 1904]

Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America, as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of an international police power.

troll said sumthin sumthin... ignore:
What are you talking about? We claim 2 OCEANs as a buffer zone. You're factually incorrect. Per the National Archives: ____ The Monroe Doctrine was articulated in President James Monroe's seventh annual message to Congress on December 2, 1823. The European powers, according to Monroe, were obligated to respect the Western Hemisphere as the United States' sphere of interest. President James Monroe’s 1823 annual message to Congress contained the Monroe Doctrine, which warned European powers not to interfere in the affairs of the Western Hemisphere. Understandably, the United States has always taken a particular interest in its closest neighbors – the nations of the Western Hemisphere. Equally understandably, expressions of this concern have not always been favorably regarded by other American nations. The Monroe Doctrine is the best known U.S. policy toward the Western Hemisphere. Buried in a routine annual message delivered to Congress by President James Monroe in December 1823, the doctrine warns European nations that the United States would not tolerate further colonization or puppet monarchs. The doctrine was conceived to meet major concerns of the moment, but it soon became a watchword of U.S. policy in the Western Hemisphere. The Monroe Doctrine was invoked in 1865 when the U.S. government exerted diplomatic and military pressure in support of the Mexican President Benito Juárez. This support enabled Juárez to lead a successful revolt against the Emperor Maximilian, who had been placed on the throne by the French government. Almost 40 years later, in 1904, European creditors of a number of Latin American countries threatened armed intervention to collect debts. President Theodore Roosevelt promptly proclaimed the right of the United States to exercise an "international police power" to curb such "chronic wrongdoing," in his so-called Roosevelt Corollary (or extension) to the Monroe Doctrine. While the Monroe Doctrine’s message was designed to keep European powers out of the Western Hemisphere, Roosevelt would strengthen its meaning to justify sending the United States into other countries of the Western Hemisphere. As a result, U.S. Marines were sent into Santo Domingo in 1904, Nicaragua in 1911, and Haiti in 1915, ostensibly to keep the Europeans out. Other Latin American nations viewed these interventions with misgiving, and relations between the “great Colossus of the North” and its southern neighbors remained strained for many years. In 1962, the Monroe Doctrine was invoked symbolically when the Soviet Union began to build missile-launching sites in Cuba. With the support of the Organization of American States, President John F. Kennedy threw a naval and air quarantine around the island. After several tense days, the Soviet Union agreed to withdraw the missiles and dismantle the sites. Subsequently, the United States dismantled several of its obsolete air and missile bases in Turkey. ____ And from the 1823 annual message of President Monroe, in more explicit terms: "We owe it, therefore, to candor and to the amicable relations existing between the United States and those powers to declare that we should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere as dangerous to our peace and safety. With the existing colonies or dependencies of any European power we have not interfered and shall not interfere, but with the Governments who have declared their independence and maintained it, and whose independence we have, on great consideration and on just principles, acknowledged, we could not view any interposition for the purpose of oppressing them, or controlling in any other manner their destiny, by any European power in any other light than as the manifestation of an unfriendly disposition toward the United States...Our policy in regard to Europe, which was adopted at an early stage of the wars which have so long agitated that quarter of the globe, nevertheless remains the same, which is, not to interfere in the internal concerns of any of its powers; to consider the government de facto as the legitimate government for us; to cultivate friendly relations with it, and to preserve those relations by a frank, firm, and manly policy, meeting in all instances the just claims of every power, submitting to injuries from none. But in regard to those continents circumstances are eminently and conspicuously different. It is impossible that the allied powers should extend their political system to any portion of either continent without endangering our peace and happiness; nor can anyone believe that our southern brethren, if left to themselves, would adopt it of their own accord. It is equally impossible, therefore, that we should behold such interposition in any form with indifference. If we look to the comparative strength and resources of Spain and those new Governments, and their distance from each other, it must be obvious that she can never subdue them. It is still the true policy of the United States to leave the parties to themselves, in the hope that other powers will pursue the same course." A claim not just of oceans as a buffer zone, and not merely of continents: but the entirety of the Western Hemisphere, insofar as it involved territories which were not already colonies or dependencies of European powers.

troll said sumthin sumthin... ignore:
Where the United States claims two continents as a buffer zone, ***What are you talking about? We claim 2 OCEANs as a buffer zone. Russia claims the immediate area surrounding Russia. ***There are no souls living in our buffer zone. Russia claiming hegemony over millions of souls and their land/oil/gas/grain/resources is just a straightforward assertion of conquest. Each side defends its buffer zone not by right of law, but by military force. ***The US asserts military force into the 2 oceans of buffer zone? Do you listen to yourself and how much ???? bullshiite you put out? You show your typical ability to blather without knowing what you are talking about. I see it is time to water the plant again. Two CONTINENTS are not two OCEANS. I said we claim two CONTINENTS. Learn to read. We have two oceans as a natural barrier. If you do not think the United States asserts military force into the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, you must be unaware of the U.S. Navy and the Coast Guard. Nobody claims the two oceans. They are just there. To get from there to here, the ocean must be crossed. We claim territorial waters which includes coastal waters of the ocean for 12 miles. Black's Law Dictionary, 11th Ed., 2019 Monroe Doctrine. (1850) The principle that the United States will allow no intervention or domination in the Western Hemisphere by any non-American country. - - - - - - - - - - Polk Doctrine. Int'l Law. The principle by President James K. Polk that the Monroe Doctrine (dating from 1823) remained sound and that the United States would oppose any European interference in North America. Cf. MONROE DOCTRINE. Ultra Sonic 007 quoted the Monroe Doctrine at #110. Below is the Polk Doctrine, reaffirming and extending the Monroe Doctrine, from Polk's First Annual Address to Congress of December 2, 1845. https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/presidential-speeches/december-2-1845-first-annual-message [excerpt] It is well known to the American people and to all nations that this Government has never interfered with the relations subsisting between other governments. We have never made ourselves parties to their wars or their alliances; we have not sought their territories by conquest; we have not mingled with parties in their domestic struggles; and believing our own form of government to be the best, we have never attempted to propagate it by intrigues, by diplomacy, or by force. We may claim on this continent a like exemption from European interference. The nations of America are equally sovereign and independent with those of Europe. They possess the same rights, independent of all foreign interposition, to make war, to conclude peace, and to regulate their internal affairs. The people of the United States can not, therefore, view with indifference attempts of European powers to interfere with the independent action of the nations on this continent. The American system of government is entirely different from that of Europe. Jealousy among the different sovereigns of Europe, lest any one of them might become too powerful for the rest, has caused them anxiously to desire the establishment of what they term the "balance of power." It can not be permitted to have any application on the North American continent, and especially to the United States. We must ever maintain the principle that the people of this continent alone have the right to decide their own destiny. Should any portion of them, constituting an independent state, propose to unite themselves with our Confederacy, this will be a question for them and us to determine without any foreign interposition. We can never consent that European powers shall interfere to prevent such a union because it might disturb the "balance of power" which they may desire to maintain upon this continent. Near a quarter of a century ago the principle was distinctly announced to the world, in the annual message of one of my predecessors, that— The American continents, by the free and independent condition which they have assumed and maintain, are henceforth not to be considered as subjects for colonization by any European powers. This principle will apply with greatly increased force should any European power attempt to establish any new colony in North America. In the existing circumstances of the world the present is deemed a proper occasion to reiterate and reaffirm the principle avowed by Mr. Monroe and to state my cordial concurrence in its wisdom and sound policy. The reassertion of this principle, especially in reference to North America, is at this day but the promulgation of a policy which no European power should cherish the disposition to resist. Existing rights of every European nation should be respected, but it is due alike to our safety and our interests that the efficient protection of our laws should be extended over our whole territorial limits, and that it should be distinctly announced to the world as our settled policy that no future European colony or dominion shall with our consent be planted or established on any part of the North American continent. And then there was the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/roosevelt-corollary [Excerpt, Theodore Roosevelt’s Annual Message to Congress, December 6, 1904] Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. If a nation shows that it knows how to act with reasonable efficiency and decency in social and political matters, if it keeps order and pays its obligations, it need fear no interference from the United States. Chronic wrongdoing, or an impotence which results in a general loosening of the ties of civilized society, may in America, as elsewhere, ultimately require intervention by some civilized nation, and in the Western Hemisphere the adherence of the United States to the Monroe Doctrine may force the United States, however reluctantly, in flagrant cases of such wrongdoing or impotence, to the exercise of an international police power.

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