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Democrats: When Do You Think Life Begins?
Wall Street Journal Opinion Page ^ | May 9, 2022 | Rick Scott

Posted on 05/10/2022 7:31:53 AM PDT by Wuli

I have a simple question for Democrats: When do you believe life begins?

The Republican position on abortion is based on a fundamental belief that life begins at conception. It’s a conclusion grounded in faith and values, but also in science.

We know that unborn babies can feel pain very early. We know that after six weeks a baby’s heartbeat can be heard in the womb. Modern sonograms show unborn babies smiling, yawning and sucking their thumbs.

Put simply, science has revealed that an unborn baby is a human being, and voters agree. According to recent polling conducted by the National Republican Senatorial Committee, 73% of voters agree that an unborn baby is a human being.

So that raises the question: When do Democrats believe life begins? At conception? At viability? At birth? After birth? They won’t say. Even more disconcerting, reporters won’t ask them. It’s a dereliction of duty by the mainstream media not to push the question, and it’s an abdication of their responsibility to inform the American people and spur legitimate debate.

Since the leaked draft opinion in the case of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, Democrats have come out as the abortion extremists we’ve always known they are. They’ve staked out a position that is simply outside the mainstream of where average American voters are.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; democrats; rickscott
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"I’ve heard some liberals say that the Bible says life begins at “first breath”, meaning at the moment of birth, and not before the baby is born."

Liberals take Genesis 2:7 about the creation of Adam and apply it to all of Adam's descendants to justify their baby-butchering in the womb. There's other Scripture (e.g., Psalm 22:10–11, Psalm 139:13–16, Jeremiah 1:5, and Job 31:15) that recognize a baby in the womb as a human being.

Furthermore, such liberals are often hypocrites when they also believe humans are descended from lower animals, not Adam.

41 posted on 05/10/2022 8:31:12 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: Avalon Memories

Using the term ‘conception’ in two different contexts causes confusion. The union of the two gametes causes a ‘new life to express’ and the attachment to the uterine lining is a conception, by the mother.


42 posted on 05/10/2022 8:31:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Wuli

They know, but deny because they don’t want to lose the millions that the abortionists give them.


43 posted on 05/10/2022 8:32:16 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Government, when allowed to expand, always ends up using its power, and our $, to protect its power.)
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To: bitt
When do you believe life begins?

When the kids leave home and the dog dies...
44 posted on 05/10/2022 8:35:47 AM PDT by stylin19a (Why do "overlook" and "oversee" mean opposite things?)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Would the left do this to a clump of cells we find on another planet?


45 posted on 05/10/2022 8:36:26 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Wuli

The godless demoncrats are all about self. Everything else is a distant second.


46 posted on 05/10/2022 8:42:42 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Kevmo

The duplicity liiterally screams out to us!


47 posted on 05/10/2022 8:45:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks immensely.

The article from quillete was excellent and spot on with theme of this thread.


48 posted on 05/10/2022 8:46:27 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: FarCenter

Lol.


49 posted on 05/10/2022 8:47:39 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: MHGinTN
Using the term ‘conception’ in two different contexts causes confusion.

I specifically said and meant conception. A fertilized egg cannot develop unless it attaches to the uterus. That is conception. A fertilized egg that fails to attach in the uterus is usually passed unnoticed out of the body in some way, usually through reabsorption or, in the case of ectopic pregnancy, through surgical intervention.

50 posted on 05/10/2022 8:48:28 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Wuli

The moment of conception when the child’s DNA is completely different than the mother’s.


51 posted on 05/10/2022 8:49:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: Wuli

It’s a difference in degree and not in kind. Human from conception—doesn’t grow into anything else.


52 posted on 05/10/2022 8:50:51 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“I’m not a Bible scholar with enough knowledge to know what the Bible says, but that’s what I heard someone say, that first breath is the start of life.”

You don’t have to be. The interpretation of Genesis goes out the window with basic reasoning. First, if man can create life in the lab, then does that make him God? SYNTHETIC cells made by combining components of Mycoplasma bacteria with a chemically synthesized genome can grow and divide into cells of uniform shape and size, just like most natural bacterial cells. I don’t see any nostrils for man to breath into.

Secondly, babies do breath in the womb. The children in the womb need oxygen to survive thus they breath. So at what point does the child breath to stay alive? It is in the womb. Not at the birth outside the womb. Although babies do practice breathing movements in the womb to train their muscles, they don’t actually breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide like birthed people do. Instead, oxygen and carbon dioxide exchange happen via the umbilical cord and placenta. But it still happens. So if the definition of being alive is based upon breathing, that occurs in the womb. So we’re right back to where we started. And when is it right to remove life from a person whether in the womb or not? Totally outside the womb, it is killing by a human definition. The determination of legal killing is what is in question.

wy69


53 posted on 05/10/2022 8:51:04 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Avalon Memories
You asserted, "A fertilized egg cannot develop unless it attaches to the uterus."

First once the two gametes combine into a single cell there is no longer an 'egg', there is a zygote. THAT new life does in fact develop into a multicellular mass known as the morulla, proving scientifically that the new life IS developing.

The zygote is not an egg (ovum) or a spermatazoon, it is a new distinct life begun, and that new life expresses in the dividing of cells forming a mass known as the morrulla.

54 posted on 05/10/2022 8:54:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Wuli

They may not know when it begins, but they sure as heck know when it ends.
Since they’re so madly in love “injections”, perhaps they should experiment with some high-speed lead injections on themselves.
Hint for libs: an “injection” in the ear or between the eyes has proven to have the best and quickest results for those that have tried it. Suggest you try it for yourself and see...we’ll be waiting to hear back from ya. /s


55 posted on 05/10/2022 8:56:33 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: rlmorel
Where along that “gray zone” between fertilization and a baby exiting the birth canal, did that “clump of cells” become a “human”? I assumed that I could figure that out, which is the folly of hubris.

It seems possible there is even be a "grey zone" within the larger "grey zone".

IMO, the first successful heartbeat, with its easily understood purpose, is the definitive event.

56 posted on 05/10/2022 8:57:18 AM PDT by frog in a pot (If abortion is the taking of a human life, under what theory should it be left to the states?)
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To: Wuli

Why bother with the question.

They do not care when life begins

They just want to end the baby’s life when they want to.

It has nothing to do with these tortured pro life arguments about when life REALLY BEGINS!


57 posted on 05/10/2022 8:58:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Wuli

I think the question is, Do democrats care when life begins?


58 posted on 05/10/2022 9:04:42 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Wuli

For the lovers of abortion, it’s strictly about convenience and expediency. They don’t care whether it’s a life or not, they just don’t want the bother of their irresponsible behavior.

That in a essence is their (unstated) argument.

Everything else they say is just dishonest smoke and mirrors.


59 posted on 05/10/2022 9:07:35 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: SheepWhisperer
This is what the first century Pharisee and historian Josephus says the Jews of the time believed regarding abortion:

The law, moreover enjoins us to bring up all our offspring, and forbids women to cause abortion of what is begotten, or to destroy it afterward; and if any woman appears to have so done, she will be a murderer of her child, by destroying a living creature, and diminishing human kind: if any one, therefore, proceeds to such fornication or murder, he cannot be clean.

60 posted on 05/10/2022 9:12:56 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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