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To: hanamizu

I don’t think Russia wants to “occupy” Ukraine.
Russia does NOT want NATO on it’s border. Former comedian Zelensky was pushing for NATO membership since he came to power. He was misled by USA & NATO into thinking they would give Ukraine full support to become NATO member.

You probably too young to remember Cuban missile crisis. During JFK admin, Cuba became ally of USSR and was stocking up missiles. We did not want enemy weapons 90 miles from our border, so we INVADED SOVEREIGN country of Cuba 90 miles away by completely blockading entire Cuba and shut their ports down. It was nerve wrecking situation, with people afraid of starting WWIII. But Cuba wisely backed down and the missiles were shipped back to USSR.

Ukraine is not 90 miles from Russia border. It is right smack on Russia border. If Ukraine would have agreed to NOT seek NATO membership, the war could have been avoided.


138 posted on 03/18/2022 6:57:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (Blockade of Cuba by USA was OK, but NATO weapons seeking Ukraine invasion not acceptable to Neocons!)
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To: entropy12
The US invaded Cuba during the missle crisis? Seriously?
148 posted on 03/18/2022 7:09:05 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: entropy12

Putin doesn’t want Ukraine. He was tired of the Nazis and the donbas shelling. He also wants to find those responsible for the Odessa massacre in 2014.


149 posted on 03/18/2022 7:09:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: entropy12

“You probably too young to remember Cuban missile crisis...so we INVADED SOVEREIGN country of Cuba 90 miles away by completely blockading entire Cuba”


Alas, I’m old enough to remember the Cuban missile crisis all too well. We did not invade Cuba, although a naval blockade is an act of war. I believe the term we used at the time was a ‘quarantine of shipping’ into Cuba to avoid admitting to an act of war.

As a result of the Cuban missile crisis, we pulled our missiles out of Turkey, USSR did the same with its missiles out of Cuber and, maybe most importantly, we agreed to make no move against the Cuban Communist government in the future.

I’m not saying that Russia doesn’t have reasons to be unhappy with Ukraine, but the fact still remains that Ukraine didn’t invade anyone and Russia did. Russia and Putin rightly deserve the condemnation they are receiving. I believe that Russia believes that Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic nations and even Finland really should belong to them since all were part of the old Russian Empire.


155 posted on 03/18/2022 7:30:08 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: entropy12

If Ukraine would have agreed to NOT seek NATO membership, the war could have been avoided.
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Correct. Add to that, Ukraine has been denied access to both NATO and the EU, from day one of their “ Independence “ in 1991. Ever wonder why?


162 posted on 03/18/2022 7:46:31 PM PDT by delta7
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