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By carefully crafting the evidence that could be presented to the jury, Georgia got the guilty verdict they so badly wanted.
1 posted on 11/24/2021 5:36:25 PM PST by HogsBreath
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Someone mentioned in an earlier thread that police had a picture of him which they took door to door through the neighborhood asking people if they had seen him.

Haven't seen confirmation of this, but that's what someone said in an earlier thread.

if true, it meant the entire neighborhood knew he was being sought by the police.

2 posted on 11/24/2021 5:39:57 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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ouch BLM

VIDEO: Ahmaud Arbery’s father: All lives matter, not just blacks
https://rumble.com/vpr97z-ahmaud-arberys-father-all-lives-matter-not-just-blacks..html


3 posted on 11/24/2021 5:40:37 PM PST by janetjanet998
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I think the verdict was correct.

Detention of a suspect waiting for police is one thing. Reasonable suspicion is a triable fact.

Threatening to blow his head off, and then doing it? That also is a matter for a jury, and I think the State would have gotten a conviction in all-white New Hampshire, Maine, or Vermont with the facts as I understand them.


4 posted on 11/24/2021 5:40:48 PM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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Sorry about the hot heads who killed the boy, dumb way to ruin your life. But the boy himself was playing with fire and got burned. He had been heading down that path for a long time. Eventually Karma catches up.

5 posted on 11/24/2021 5:42:11 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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He was an effing thief, and a violent a-hole who attacked those decent men just protecting their neighborhood. God protect those political prisoners.


7 posted on 11/24/2021 5:47:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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The judge also banned the prosecution for presenting evidence that the McMichaels had a history of sharing racist messages on social media, and that Travis McMichael called Arbery 'a f****** n*****' as Arbery lay dying on the street.

Worked both ways.

8 posted on 11/24/2021 5:48:06 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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I served on a jury where a policeman friend testified. During the trial we were directed to leave the courtroom while the lawyers talked about something.

The defendant was being charged with a felony and a misdemeanor. We ended up finding her guilty of the misdemeanor and not guilty of the felony.

After the trial I talked with my cop buddy and the first thing he said to me was, “ How could you find her not guilty?” I told him we didn’t have any evidence to charge her.

Then he told me about what the lawyers discussed. Seems she had several similar felony arrests and convictions over the same issues. But the judge did t allow us to hear the evidence!

I will NEVER forget that. I got a lesson in law.


9 posted on 11/24/2021 5:48:13 PM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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"Judge Timothy Walmsley ruled that Arbery's past, including the alleged convenience store thefts, were not relevant to the case because the defendants were not aware of it at the time of the shooting."

WTF??? If they'd known about his record, the court would have wanted to know where they got the information from, and charge them with invasion of privacy. People's rap sheets are not readily available to the public. And I don't care if the old man was a retired cop. He wouldn't have been legally privy to them either.

11 posted on 11/24/2021 5:54:55 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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I get that Avery might have been a perpetually petty criminal, but that wouldn’t relevant in the trial in question for the circumstances that this happened under. In this case, Avery did not commit a crime worth taking a life over. Once he started running, you let him go.


12 posted on 11/24/2021 5:54:58 PM PST by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, wie thout meaning to. )
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We have to go outside the country to learn these things as the Ministry of Propaganda would never tell us.


14 posted on 11/24/2021 5:56:39 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Why didn’t the defense enter it?

It’s not relevant to the prosecution case, or the specific crime. Did the shooters know this? I doubt it.


17 posted on 11/24/2021 6:04:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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Evidence the Arbery jury never heard: Storekeepers nicknamed Ahmaud 'The Jogger' for stealing and running away

The effect this piece of trivia would have had on the jury runs the gamut from hardly any to none at all. Nor should it have.
19 posted on 11/24/2021 6:06:10 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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If you were jogging in a some neighborhood and someone has a gun and telling you to stay put until the cops arrive, would you charge the person with the gun and attempt to disarm them? I just don't see the typical "Jogger" behaving like that.

What the decedent did was pretty close to suicide from my perspective. And predictably, he ended up dead for that action.

20 posted on 11/24/2021 6:07:05 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I don’t see how that is relevant to the case. It did not cause the defendants to suspect the man they killed. All that is relevant is why they chased him down, attempted to detain him, and why they shot him.


31 posted on 11/24/2021 6:25:38 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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Indefensible to confront him in that situation. Should have called the police. Not defending the obviously thieving individual, but THAT was not the way to handle a theft case.


32 posted on 11/24/2021 6:26:47 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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even more info suppressed by the ‘judge’...

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/10/ahmaud-arbery-case-seven-facts-the-jury-will-probably-never-hear/


33 posted on 11/24/2021 6:29:08 PM PST by snuffy smiff (Vsetko Umiera! Build the Wall and build it tall, then build a gallows and hang them ALL!)
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“Arbery pleaded guilty to charges that he carried a gun onto a high school campus in 2013, a year after he graduated. Rodney Ellis, police chief for the Glynn County school system, testified at Wednesday’s hearing that Arbery tried to evade officers on foot and stopped only when two of them pointed guns at him.

“He was also arrested in 2017 on charges that he tried to steal a TV from a Walmart. Court records show he pleaded guilty to shoplifting. Arbery was on probation at the time of his death.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ahmaud-arberys-criminal-record-cannot-be-used-by-defense-in-murder-trial-judge-rules/ar-AANZc4M


40 posted on 11/24/2021 6:36:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Wouldn’t make a difference. Georgia law is very specific about how to make a citizen’s arrest. They did none of it.


49 posted on 11/24/2021 6:51:52 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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By carefully crafting the evidence that could be presented to the jury, Georgia got the guilty verdict they so badly wanted.

It is "evidence" that is completely irrelevant to what occurred on that particular day. Had zero to do with the case at hand.

104 posted on 11/24/2021 8:43:00 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Doesn’t matter. Those 3 weren’t cops and chased him down the street. They killed him and will rot in prison.


108 posted on 11/24/2021 8:47:45 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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