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To: ProgressingAmerica

There is no list of what they are allowed to do. There is only a list of what they cannot do. If you think otherwise, please post appropriate reference material that supports your view. Otherwise, you are just voicing an opinion; and, opinions are not actionable.


56 posted on 11/30/2021 1:51:31 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
-- There is no list of what they are allowed to do. There is only a list of what they cannot do. --

Please post appropriate reference material, or links thereto, that supports your view.

The history is pretty clear on this question. The constitution, at least in the mind of its creators and ratifying powers, viewed it as creating a government of limited and enumerated powers. Enumerated powers is, according to most people's definition, a list of what the government is allowed to do.

Now, I suppose some rhetorical trick or clever sophistry can convert enumerated powers into "a list of what they cannot do." Based on your posts on this thread, I expect a naked disagreement with no supporting argument.

Brief history at History of the Bill of Rights.

Federalists believed a Bill of Rights was unnecessary because they believed that the Constitution only gave the government limited powers that were specifically listed. The government had no power to do things it was not entitled to in the Constitution. Alexander Hamilton believed that the people were not giving up any rights by accepting the Constitution. Therefore, in his view, it was not necessary to protect something which was not taken away from them with a Bill of Rights.

The Federalists also believed, though, that adding a Bill of Rights could be very dangerous. If specific rights to be retained by the people were listed in the Constitution, they believed it would imply that any rights not listed were not protected and that the government would gradually encroach upon these rights.

The Anti-Federalists remained unpersuaded. They wanted guarantees for such things as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to petition the government and many others, specifically listed in the Constitution.


59 posted on 11/30/2021 2:14:37 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: GingisK
"There is no list of what they are allowed to do."

Yikes! Article I, Section 8 is a list of what they are allowed to do. Schools aren't here.

Since you haven't ever read the Constitution, here is the list:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

This is what the 10th amendment means when it states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"

The powers not delegated - meaning, Article I Section 8, also meaning, there is no constitutional requirement for there to be "prohibitions". That's propaganda promoted by progressives. Everything is prohibited unless specifically granted. That's the plain language.

This is simple stuff here.

62 posted on 11/30/2021 2:45:13 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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