Posted on 09/08/2021 5:46:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
A judge in Ohio on Monday said a hospital can’t be forced to give ivermectin to a COVID-19 patient, a reversal of a previous order.
The wife of Jeffrey Smith, a 51-year-old being treated in West Chester Hospital since mid-July, did not provide “clear and convincing evidence” to support her lawsuit against the hospital, Butler County Common Pleas Court Judge Michael Oster Jr. ruled.
Julie Smith, the wife, sued last month, arguing that the hospital should administer ivermectin to her husband because it was prescribed by a doctor, Dr. Fred Wagshul. Doing so has “minimal downside and side effects,” she said in the lawsuit.
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If she had gone to the hospital for an abortion instead of wanting an FDA approved medication, they would have FORCED the doctors to perform the procedure. I just cant wrap my brain around that
Clearly, the attending physician does not have full status at that hospital. I wonder how difficult it would be for a doc who has full porivs, to assist the attending physician? What is wrong with the hearts of the doctors who have full access at that hospital? What has ‘medicine’ come to?++++
Depending on state and local laws, if the hospital can provide the same services as the receiving hospitals, then the proposed receiving hospitals don’t have to take them if their physicians refuse to accept him. If the proposed receiving hospital uses the “in house hospitalist” model of care then most patients’ private personal doctors don’t have admitting privileges any more as the in house hospitalists control the medical care of patients inhouse. The patients revert back to their private care doctors after discharge.
“1) go home and take Tylenol...”
That very suggestion is likely making things worse by suppressing fever which is part of the body’s immune response to a virus.
It may be a hospitalist model that the hospital uses which means all in hospital care is done by doctors hired inhouse and paid by the hospital. Specialists may be called in but many hospitals have done away with the private physician with admitting privileges model. The hospitals were losing too much money and getting the blame for the private physicians mistakes and arbitrary billing of the patients. Patients get a “billing one stop shop” other than the specialists that may have to be called in. The major hospitals are now hiring doctors’ groups under contract to provide certain trauma,general surgery, and intensivist services for critical care and the hospitals handle the billing for these groups.
Most private and family practice doctors in many areas see no patients in hospital anymore. So the upper hospital management dictates top down what their own employed hospitalists may do; private physicians may be called for more info by these inhouse-doctors but they aren’t under any obligation to follow the private physicians’ advice. Many hospitalists may agree in private principle concerning ivermectin(and many reportedly take it on the sly) but they can’t go against their upper managements’ policies for patient care.
Low grade temps are fine but anyone with sustained temps over 102 orally could use a little cooling as increased temps increase oxygen demand and for someone with Respiratory compromise, sustained temps over 102.5 would be potentially life threatening. I don’t care what they say about aspirin or other NSAIDs, they do help with sustained temps and can help break the immune overreaction cascades...they just have to be given at the recommended dosages, not taken like candy. One watches for bleeding. Tylenol is okay too.
I don’t think that the husband and the ivermectin doctor are even in the same state
Thank you for the edumacation! So that’s what has happened to medicine in the twenty years I’ve been out of it!
#7: How true.
It sounds like the judge was intimidated since he allowed it at first.
There is a legal reason hospitals get paid more to ventilate you to death. They are immune to liability if they follow the failed protocol that has killed hundreds of thousands.
https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/4-PREP-Act.aspx
The amended Section VII adds that PREP Act liability protections also extend to Covered Persons for Recommended Activities that are related to any Covered Countermeasure that is:
a. licensed, approved, cleared, or authorized by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) (or that is permitted to be used under an Investigational New Drug Application or an Investigational Device Exemption) under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act or Public Health Service (PHS) Act to treat, diagnose, cure, prevent, mitigate or limit the harm from COVID–19, or the transmission of SARS–CoV–2 or a virus mutating therefrom; or
b. a respiratory protective device approved by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) under 42 CFR part 84, or any successor regulations, that the Secretary determines to be a priority for use during a public health emergency declared under section 319 of the PHS Act to prevent, mitigate, or limit the harm from, COVID–19, or the transmission of SARS–CoV–2 or a virus mutating therefrom.
If the hospital or physician refuses to treat you with anything other than Remdesivir (which has an EUA still outstanding despite failing said trials), dexamethasone, oxygen and a ventilator (which, you remember, Trump bought tens of thousands of for this explicit purpose under the DPA) they are immune from all legal action you may take due to their negligence, even if they KNOW there are other treatment options that, on the science, work.
If they use those options they lose the PREP Act immunity.
That’s right: The US Federal Government demanded that in exchange for legal protection in all respects with regard to Covid-19 treatment only what they approved for said use could be used. Anything else and poof — the PREP Act liability shield is gone.
HHS killed every single person denied care and treatments by direct decree as they not only pay the hospitals $30,000+ to put you on a ventilator they immunized the hospitals from legal action if and only if they refused to treat you with anything not on the FDA’s “approved” list.”
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=243448
*** It may be a hospitalist model that the hospital uses which means all in hospital care is done by doctors hired inhouse and paid by the hospital. ***
My local hospital uses the hospitalist model. I wasn’t exactly thrilled when I looked up the medical schools some of the in hospital docs graduated from. Aruba, Barbados..etc.
Thanks for your response. I would hope that someone with respiratory compromise showing signs of Covid even if not running a fever would seek out early as possible medical help. Low grade fever should also let people know that perhaps they should stay home and not be out and about. If treated too early it is easy to assume that absent the fever they are no longer contagious. I’ve read that low dose aspirin (or even regular dose) is believed to be helpful in preventing possible clotting in COVID.
The immune overreaction cascades from my understanding are more likely to be a threat in those who have a very healthy immune system so I would think their innate immune system probably does not need the boost (For want of a better word) that a fever provides. Bad explanation I know. But I am trying to convey that sometimes there can be too much of a good thing and healthy people are probably better off keeping higher fever at bay because their immune systems may go into overdrive if some of it is not actually suppressed.
The little guns may be enough. But automatically suppressing a fever in the early stages has been found to have little if any benefit and does compromise important immune response.
You may probably find these interesting. I know you will understand it a whole lot better than me.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC478607
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2172402/
Man....sometimes i feel like im an extra in a really bad horror movie.
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Very well put!
They can’t be forced to treat unvaccinated gunshot victims or heart attack patients either.
Is there any way to save this nation short of war?
My wife is a pharmacist and says that Ivermectin is generally given for 5 days only for covid. She says that after 5 days it can cause cardiac problems.
i thought they were both in OH, according to the article, I could be wrong, but I think thats what the judge recognized and suggested. After that i dont know the legalities and stuff of care, but its just mighty evil not to give the guy ivermectin or IV Vit C
I won’tbe surprised when someone goes into one of these killing hospitals with a weapon or bomb or something and grab a doctor or better yet administrator and tell them to give their loved one the medication or else...make a great movie.
sometimes people reach the end of their rope so to speak...
does Fauci have bodyguards? inquiring minds want to know.
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