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Texas abortion law: Here are 4 things to know about how it might affect Illinois
chicagotribune.com ^

Posted on 09/03/2021 5:39:24 AM PDT by Salman

In a 5-4 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday refused to block a Texas law that bans most abortions as early as about six weeks, before many women even know they’re pregnant.

The law — considered among the most restrictive in the nation — is unconventional in its approach, because it permits any private citizen to sue abortion providers or anyone aiding women in terminating a pregnancy, including someone who provides women rides to an abortion clinic or helps fund the procedure. The measure prohibits abortion after a fetal heartbeat can be detected.

Abortion rights activists fear the case could set precedence and other states might adopt similar laws, particularly some in the Midwest and southern swathes of the nation. Other state laws that have attempted such restrictive gestational limits on the procedure were previously blocked or struck down by the courts, citing Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark case that established a woman’s right to an abortion.

... Activists from both sides of the abortion debate believe Illinois will see an uptick in travel here for the procedure. ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; scotus; texas; texasheartbeatact
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It's framed as "front page news" but really it's an editorial.

The Illinois angle is that while Illinois would never pass such a law, neighboring states might, thereby overloading our abortion infrastucture.

1 posted on 09/03/2021 5:39:24 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

5-4 ruling. Good thing we have a “conservative” majority.


2 posted on 09/03/2021 5:41:59 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Salman

Lori Light in the loafers guarantees murder with freedom from prosecution.


3 posted on 09/03/2021 5:42:33 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: Salman

For a start, suing some poor Uber driver because they drove someone to get an abortion is going to increase economic uncertainty in very unhelpful ways. If the GOP embraces this approach, its their funeral. Mostly likely this will be overturned once people start getting sued.


4 posted on 09/03/2021 5:47:45 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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To: BlackAdderess

Economic uncertainty? Killing babies is a big % of the economy now under Sleepy Joe??


5 posted on 09/03/2021 5:50:56 AM PDT by No_Mas_Obama
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To: Salman
"...citing Roe v. Wade, the 1973 landmark case that established a woman’s right to an abortion"

Therein lies the rub. Our constitutional republic wasn't set up so that a court could create law from thin air. Quite the opposite.

If you read through the Declaration of Independence, most of the text are complaints the founders had against the British government. And a lot of that text had to do with courts violating laws from Parliament and creating laws from thin air to suit the crown's goals in the colonies.

When we treat stare decisis (otherwise known as "case precedent" or "case law") as equal to Constitutional law we lose our soul as a nation. Exhibit A are the 60 million babies aborted because Roe v Wade and Planned Parenthood v Casey said it's cool.

6 posted on 09/03/2021 5:54:20 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: No_Mas_Obama

A sue-happy society is a society with a lot of economic uncertainty because it increases the unforeseen setbacks you can experience.


7 posted on 09/03/2021 5:58:14 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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To: Salman

What amazes me the most is four people on the SC said it is okay to murder a child


8 posted on 09/03/2021 6:06:21 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. God’s speed FRiends)
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To: Salman

Big opportunity for Illinois!
Additional tax revenue
New distribution centers for fetal tissue
Employment opportunities for sample preparation
Stimulation for the hospitality industry


9 posted on 09/03/2021 6:07:50 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: BlackAdderess

However, in this case it is the PlannedParenthood crowd who must now constantly be looking over their shoulders for who is gonna snitch.

This whole thing might also be a long play by Tx politicos. Liberals now have another reason to protest by leaving Tx. WinWin.


10 posted on 09/03/2021 6:08:09 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Salman
It won't affect Ill people - it's a TX law.
If folks in other states don't like it I encourage them to stay out of Texas.
It does not take away a woman's right to abortion. She is free to get one in TX before a fetal heartbeat. If she's having unprotected sex and/or misses a period all she has to do is go to the local abortion Health Clinic for a blood test.
There are plenty of ways to prevent 'needing an abortion'. Keeping your legs closed is one that's easy and free. Abortion is NOT a birth control method any more than killing the repo man is an acceptable method of avoiding the car payment you agreed to.
If she's bound and determined to get an abortion no one is stopping her from leaving TX to get one.
I am so sick of these asshats in 'blue' states telling other states how to live.
Texas should just cut ties and leave the enlightened people to bow to DC while they slowly destroy themselves. This is the time to do it - all DC will do is abandon everything and evacuate TX in an orderly, safe and efficient panic.
11 posted on 09/03/2021 6:10:01 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Si vis pacem, para bellum. )
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How many women are two weeks late & haven’t done a pregnancy test?


12 posted on 09/03/2021 6:13:11 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: BlackAdderess
They are talking about a family member, more importantly the perpetrator (the relative, the boyfriend or abuser)that drives the young girl to the abortion clinic.

Many years ago I read an article from Focus on the Family making the case against exceptions for rape and incestuous relationships. They explained it is not the babys fault first of all, why should it be killed? More importantly, the incestuous exception just encourages the perpetrator to keep doing it. They are the ones that drive them there, pay for the abortion and keep molesting. If the young molested girl can't abort, everybody finds out who the pervert is and it stops.

13 posted on 09/03/2021 6:13:29 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: bobbo666

An interesting anecdote.

I know a left winger who left North Carolina for the green green grass of Texas.

She now wants to desert the endlessly flat and anti left wing city and return to NC

She can’t because she can’t find a place to live. The cost of housing is through the roof


14 posted on 09/03/2021 6:16:06 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: bobbo666

I was very excited to hear that it may stop leftist from moving to Texas as well as encourage some to move out.


15 posted on 09/03/2021 6:17:36 AM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: Salman

The issue in the case was procedural. Did they plaintiff show enough to obtain a preliminary injunction? The majority could have care about the merits, they focused on whether the legal standard for such relief had been met and the answer was “no.”

The case continues and the merits remain undecided.

Yet the media goes on and on as if abortion had been outlawed.


16 posted on 09/03/2021 6:18:08 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Salman

Did anyone read the actual ruling? The ruling was that the lawsuit was not properly structured. Had nothing to do with the law itself but that the plaintiffs were suing the law itself trying to get it suspended. The court rejected the request for an emergency suspension of the law.

They neither confirmed not denied the law itself. This was rejected on procedural technicalities.


17 posted on 09/03/2021 6:19:51 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: thirst4truth
They are talking about a family member, more importantly the perpetrator (the relative, the boyfriend or abuser)that drives the young girl to the abortion clinic.

The way the law is written it's anyone who assists. That includes the Uber driver.

The Wall Street Journal. asked an interesting question in their editorial. What if New York allows its people to sue others for hate speech? Or if California allows its people to sue others for gun usage in self defense? Where does this end?

18 posted on 09/03/2021 6:21:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: msrngtp2002
They neither confirmed not denied the law itself. This was rejected on procedural technicalities.
Does not affect The Narrative of the Week. If for any reason even one baby is protected for one instant, it's left wing hysteria time.
19 posted on 09/03/2021 6:23:53 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: bobbo666

The thing Republicans were good for was stability. You need to be able to know what to expect to be able to plan for operating a business, or just to be able to plan. Lefties undermine this with “you’re a racist” left, right, and center. Now the GOP in Texas is doing the same thing. One fine day you could wake up and find “you’re an abortionist.”

A sue-happy society is an unfriendly business climate society. Look what happened when the libertarians descended on Grafton New Hampshire and started suing everyone over everything. The businesses all left.


20 posted on 09/03/2021 6:25:50 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Welcome to the libertarian fire sale, here’s your accordion)
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