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ATF Targets Stabilizing Braces
NRA American Rifleman ^ | August 26, 2021 | AMERICAN RIFLEMAN STAF

Posted on 08/27/2021 4:42:57 PM PDT by absalom01

In June, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) published a notice of proposed rulemaking that would make nearly all firearms configured with a pistol stabilizing brace subject to the National Firearms Act, requiring taxation and registration of millions of lawfully acquired firearms. The proposal represents a dramatic shift in ATF treatment of pistol-stabilizing braces.

The new rule would implement a points system akin to the method used for determining the legality of imported handguns. Brace-equipped firearms would be required to weigh more than 4 lbs. and measure between 12" and 26". Braces installed on firearms meeting those parameters are examined for certain features, and the firearm itself is examined for similar features. Factors include whether or not a brace appears similar to a certain stock design or how the brace is attached to the host firearm. On the ATF-provided worksheet, the features are assigned an arbitrary number of points. Exceeding a pre-determined number of points would make the pistol in question subject to NFA regulation.

The new factoring system makes it nearly impossible for any brace-equipped pistol to avoid classification as an NFA-regulated firearm. Arbitrary evaluation criteria, such as whether or not the brace has a “rear surface useful for shouldering the firearm” gives gun owners no clearly defined parameters. Additionally, ATF doesn’t acknowledge that this rule reverses nearly a decade of assurances that the addition of a stabilizing brace does not create an NFA-regulated firearm.

An open-comment period gives gun owners the opportunity to communicate with the ATF and share their thoughts on the issues, ambiguities and difficulties associated with such a proposal. The National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action provides a resource for NRA members and gun owners looking to add their thoughts to the register. Comments will be accepted on the proposal up to and including Sept. 8, 2021. To learn more about how to make your voice heard on this issue, visit nraila.org.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; bureaucracy; guncontrol; rkba
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We're down to the last few days to let the BATFE know your thoughts on this beauty.
1 posted on 08/27/2021 4:42:57 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻ATF🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻


2 posted on 08/27/2021 4:45:07 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: absalom01

who needs a brace... waste of time .... seems like it would slow me down and hard to carry and and conceal.... BUT I have never shot with one.


3 posted on 08/27/2021 4:49:03 PM PDT by DOC44
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To: absalom01

“In June, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) published a notice of proposed rulemaking...”

Well, here’s a clue. Only Congress may write laws. Not the ATF. Do you suppose anyone might challenge these Nazi pigs because the ATF is NOT CONGRESS. IOW, the pigs at ATF may NOT write laws because the ATF is NOT congress.


4 posted on 08/27/2021 4:51:15 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: DOC44
It's targeted at the very popular AR platform pistols.

Here's a picture of what they want to redefine as an NFA weapon.

Springfield Saint Pistol

I don't own one, but that's not the point.

5 posted on 08/27/2021 4:55:01 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: DOC44

Would the SBR have a much lower bullet speed? Aren’t you burning a lot of the powder outside the barrel with one? Is it true that the NATO round needs speed to fragment and thus be effective?

Maybe someone with more knowledge than I could explain, but I thought the original intent was to provide soldiers with a round which was light, was easy to carry and relied on high velocity to kill. That’s what I was told during the Vietnam years when I was a kid.

Lastly, don’t the manufacturers usually get a letter from the BATF to ensure the product they are selling is legal?


6 posted on 08/27/2021 4:55:08 PM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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To: DOC44

First they came for the bump stocks, and I did not speak out—because I did not use a bump stock.

Then they came for the stabilizing braces, and I did not speak out— because I did not use a stabilizing brace.

...


7 posted on 08/27/2021 4:57:17 PM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: sergeantdave

They absolutely do have the power to regulate firearms in the US.

I don’t like that, but that’s a fact.

And it’s important to register objections to their proposed rules exactly so this can be challenged in court after it’s published.

Now is not the time to sit back and hope for the best. These people are after power, and they mean business.


8 posted on 08/27/2021 4:57:30 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

These rat bastards who got their rodent claws onto the levers of power are going for the Leftist gold ring on everything ranging from firearms to medicine.

If we can hold this putrid scum off until the election, we may have a chance. It may already be too late. But cannot give up yet.


9 posted on 08/27/2021 4:58:31 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: absalom01

The Rule of Law is Dead.
Few will comply.
FATF


10 posted on 08/27/2021 4:58:53 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba ( 87.9>12.1 people need to wake up. Why do the vaccinated fear the unvaxed? Taxation is theft.)
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To: packagingguy

Most SBRs are typically pistol caliber carbines. Their barrels are around 10-14 inches, which more than adequate for pistol caliber rounds, and makes them much more accurate than pistols.

If a PCC has a stock, then it falls into the category of a SBR, which requires an NFA tax stamp. If you attach a brace instead of a stock then it is not considered a SBR, and no tax stamp is required.


11 posted on 08/27/2021 5:08:07 PM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: absalom01

“register objections”

And you will have registered yourself.


12 posted on 08/27/2021 5:11:47 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: absalom01

Actually in this Republic, they do not have the constitutional authority to regulate firearms. But the federal guv bureaucracy has simply decided to do so backed up by hired thugs with guns. And guess what, they do it with the tax dollars they steal from you at gunpoint. (Don’t think so? Try not paying your taxes. Eventually hired thugs with guns will show up.)


13 posted on 08/27/2021 5:12:42 PM PDT by curious7
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To: absalom01

“They absolutely do have the power to regulate firearms in the US.”

Well, go ahead and cite the ATF powers to write laws in the US Constitution.

I’ll wait.


14 posted on 08/27/2021 5:12:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: sergeantdave

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570 (2008)

It is settled that the Second Amendment protects an
individual right to keep and bear arms that applies
against both the Federal Government and the States.

If Heller tells us anything, it is that firearms cannot be categorically prohibited just because they are dangerous.

Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.

Heller defined the “Arms” covered by the Second Amendment to include “‘any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.’”


15 posted on 08/27/2021 5:13:38 PM PDT by justme4now (Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it)
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To: absalom01

If the length overall is over 26”, you are out of the classification? Still no sticker required?


16 posted on 08/27/2021 5:13:59 PM PDT by David
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To: absalom01
HERE
17 posted on 08/27/2021 5:14:06 PM PDT by knarf (qa)
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To: DOC44

They are very hand in CQB.


18 posted on 08/27/2021 5:14:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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To: absalom01

Follow laws you believe are moral, and don’t follow what you don’t want to. Just know there are penalties.


19 posted on 08/27/2021 5:15:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: packagingguy

Yes, but like any government agency, they change to please their masters.


20 posted on 08/27/2021 5:16:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (When elections fail, we will either live under tyranny or rebel and throw it off.)
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