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To: EVO X
Now you are saying that herd immunity is only true if we stop Delta. Herd immunity is not just physiological immunity. We have herd immunity against measles only because of border controls. If we didn't have measles screening from endemic countries we would have it here too.

Similarly if we revert to prepandemic social interaction (e.g. large indoor venues, crowded offices, etc) we will have Delta and other congtagious variants. Won't matter how many people have natural or vaccine-induced immunity. They will be infected and reinfected.

67 posted on 08/22/2021 6:33:45 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer
Now you are saying that herd immunity is only true if we stop Delta.

I am not saying anything. I am just pointing you to someone that has more knowledge than me. Speaking of measles, I came down with a second variant in boot camp(German measles) after being vaccinated as a child.

69 posted on 08/22/2021 6:42:18 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: palmer
Now you are saying that herd immunity is only true if we stop Delta. Herd immunity is not just physiological immunity. We have herd immunity against measles only because of border controls. If we didn't have measles screening from endemic countries we would have it here too.

We have, or had herd immunity against measles and for a time Measles was considered irradicated in the US, until a number of people in the US and in some European counties stopped getting their children vaccinated for it because of fears that the MMR vaccine caused autism, which it doesn’t and among groups of certain religious sects who do not vaccinate.

I agree that border controls are important. But several of the most recent outbreaks in the US were traced to unvaccinated US citizens, mostly Orthodox Jews who traveled to Israel and Amish missionaries who travelled to the Philippines where Measles is endemic and brought it back with them.

While the outbreaks were mostly confined to their close-knit communities, there were cases that showed up outside of those communities through casual contact among the unvaccinated who are unvaccinated for reasons other than religion.

126 posted on 08/22/2021 4:19:55 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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