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Experimental vaccine death rate for Israel’s elderly 40 times higher than COVID-19 deaths: researchers
Life Site News ^ | 3/1/21 | Patrick Delaney

Posted on 03/05/2021 7:40:22 AM PST by Uncle Miltie

While in January a group of independent doctors concluded that experimental COVID-19 vaccines are “not safer” than the virus itself, a new analysis of vaccine-related death rates in Israel demonstrates that this may indeed be the case to dramatic levels.

A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.” 

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”

As reported by IsraelNationalNews (INN), Seligmann is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality, has a biology degree from Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written more than 100 scientific publications. INN reports the researchers “have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel.”

Yativ and Seligmann stipulate that even these “estimated numbers of deaths from the vaccine are probably much lower than actual numbers as it accounts only for those defined as COVID-19 deaths for that short time period and does not include AVC and cardiac (and other) events resulting from the inflammatory reactions.”

Nor do these numbers “account for long-term complications,” they write. 

In addition, within several months they expect “mid- and long-term adverse effects of the vaccination as ADE (Antibody-dependent Enhancement)” begins to become manifest in those who have received the experimental Pfizer vaccine. 

As explained by America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS), ADE “is when anti-COVID antibodies, created by a vaccine, instead of protecting the person, cause a more severe or lethal disease when the person is later exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in the wild. The vaccine amplifies the infection rather than preventing damage.”

AFLDS provides an example of a vaccine produced to fight the Dengue fever, which resulted in deaths of 600 children in the Philippines due to ADE, and the filing of criminal charges against the decisionmakers in 2019.

For these reasons and more, AFLDS and many other doctors strongly discourage the use of these experimental vaccines for most people while only acknowledging that it may be plausible for those over 70 years of age, yet acknowledging that such injections are “a higher risk than early or prophylactic treatment with established medications” (sources here, here, here, and here).

Given these death rates, Yativ and Seligmann also have harsh criticism for the severe pressure being imposed upon the population by Israeli authorities to receive these shots. According to INN, the researchers call these draconian efforts “a new Holocaust.”

In the past weeks, Israel’s government made headlines when they  a “green pass” system, allowing people who have been injected to receive a green code, which then grants them entry into places such as entertainment and leisure facilities.

As the country reopens after a two-month lockdown, the green pass would be given only to those who had been injected, not to people who tested negative for the virus. The proposed benefits include access to “non-essential” businesses as well as not being required to self-isolate if identified as a close contact of a confirmed case of COVID-19, and not having to self-isolate after a return from a what the government calls a “red location.”

Despite there being no proof that these experimental vaccines actually prevent transmission of the virus, Israel’s minister for health, Yuli Edelstein, said upon the release of the vaccine “passport” that “(g)etting vaccinated is a moral duty. It is part of our mutual responsibility.” He went further, declaring, “Whoever does not get vaccinated will be left behind.”

The green pass needs renewing every six months, and despite holding one, an individual must still abide by masking and physical distancing rules. The Jerusalem Post also reported that legislation is being considered to grant employers the right to refuse unvaccinated people entry into the workplace.

Such measures prompted Business Insider to describe the country as “waging a war on the unvaccinated.” Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Joe Biden, has styled Israel’s vaccination response as “extraordinarily good.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: chinavirusvaccine; israel; mortality; pfizer
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks Diogenesis! I knew about the DES way back when, but I didn’t get cancer and had 4 children and didn’t think about it much. Then a few years ago I started having strange intermittent adrenal issues. Of course levels are not up most of the time when I have to have the tests done. But then neither are symptoms! Just thought about how that might be due the DES a few months ago and did research. I was amazed to see that most of my annoying issues sure seem have been due to that. Most people have a lot more serious issues. Mine are more annoying than life changing.

I was also surprised to see all the issues that have come from it. And how very little most Drs know about these issues.


41 posted on 03/05/2021 9:20:18 AM PST by lupie
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To: P-Marlowe

No.

Given the recent decline in Covid death rates, increased rates of vaccination do NOT increase Covid deaths.

But it does concern me that Dr. Seligman’s so-called “re-analysis” of “data” collected by Israeli scientists failed to report how many of the dead were infected with COVID BEFORE they were vaccinated. How could Dr. Seligman NOT know that vaccines aim to prevent NEW infections — NOT cure existing infections?

IMHO, to ignore (hide?) that critical fact is to mislead.

I wonder how many other “errors” Dr. Seligman has made.

“Correlation” is NOT “causation”.


42 posted on 03/05/2021 9:22:56 AM PST by pfony1 (All Democrats LIE. )
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To: P-Marlowe
Why do you have faith in it?

Who said anything about faith?

I believe the studies that demonstrate many fewer people get seriously ill if they take the vaccine vs. not.

43 posted on 03/05/2021 10:19:53 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Uncle Miltie

Is the counting in this as “vaccine” caused deaths similar to the counting of “Covid-19 deaths” for any death for any reason just because the patient did test positive (even if only after death) for Covid-29. Is the counting just reflecting correlation and maybe not causation?


44 posted on 03/05/2021 10:31:02 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Mom MD

It is. They recommend the vaccine and then recommend you continue to live in fear after you get it.

I’ll pass.

I won’t live in fear and I won’t get the “vaccine”.


45 posted on 03/05/2021 12:48:59 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: semimojo
Who said anything about faith?
I believe.......

You just did.

46 posted on 03/05/2021 1:31:21 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: P-Marlowe
You just did.

Well, if you want to call knowledge informed by scientific experiments and real world results faith you can but I'm not sure where it gets you.

You've just lumped all of our scientific knowledge in with hope.

47 posted on 03/05/2021 2:41:13 PM PST by semimojo
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To: pfony1
Given the recent decline in Covid death rates, increased rates of vaccination do NOT increase Covid deaths.

Considering that the number of reported Covid deaths was inflated BB (Before Biden), a decline in Covid deaths proves nothing other than the hysteria is ending.

But it does concern me that Dr. Seligman’s so-called “re-analysis” of “data” collected by Israeli scientists failed to report how many of the dead were infected with COVID BEFORE they were vaccinated. How could Dr. Seligman NOT know that vaccines aim to prevent NEW infections — NOT cure existing infections?

How do you know that? So why vaccinate anyone who presently has the virus? The UK results indicate that elderly are more likely to contract the virus in the nine days after getting the vaccine. Why is that? Possible explanations include 1) a false sense of immunity leading to riskier behavior, 2) that the vaccine actually reduces the bodies natural immunity in some people, and 3) the vaccine itself is infecting some people. These vaccines are still experimental. The long term health consequence of them are completely unknown. Educated doctors have suggested these mRNA vaccines can cause sterility in women, and shut down natural immune responses to some cancers. To much money is being made by Big Pharma not to be skeptical and volunteer to be a human guinea pig.
48 posted on 03/05/2021 2:53:37 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: semimojo

Do you accept all the global warming “science”?

Are we doomed?


49 posted on 03/05/2021 3:36:33 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: P-Marlowe
Do you accept all the global warming “science”?

Not all of it. I accept the measurements and to a lesser extent the modeling of what's going to happen.

I don't necessarily accept the projections of what the impact on us will be and I don't think we've taken into account all of the adaptations we're capable of, so I don't think we're doomed.

50 posted on 03/05/2021 4:16:38 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Uncle Miltie

“0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times)

call me crazy but I always thought 0.05 was less than 0.19.


51 posted on 03/05/2021 5:21:39 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among “those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination.”

“This scary picture also extends to those below 65,” the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process “0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.”


You are misreading that. The 0.05 percent died during five week vaccination process. The 0.19 percent is those who died during the whole year. So, the numbers compare total deaths for the year vs. the five week vaccination process.
52 posted on 03/05/2021 5:50:27 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Uncle Miltie
Using the Cuomo method to reduce government spending commitments?
53 posted on 03/05/2021 5:54:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Some points to ponder:

1. If the Covid death rates that were reported to us were deliberately inflated to increase hysteria, then why would declining death rates be reported to us now?

2. Consider how vaccines work. Vaccines use “weak” copies of viruses to “teach” our immune systems how to produce the antibodies that will fight and kill those specific viruses if an infection occurs. That is why it is wasteful to vaccinate a person against a virus that he already has and is already fighting.

3. The “UK results” that I saw showed a pattern of more vaccinations and fewer deaths. Same as the US. A coincidence?

4. You said, “These vaccines are still experimental. The long term health consequence of them are completely unknown.” I disagree, but I say, “Go ahead. Reject vaccination. Herd immunity will eventually protect you.”

Or are you competing for The Darwin Award?


54 posted on 03/05/2021 6:40:50 PM PST by pfony1 (All Democrats LIE. )
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To: pfony1
vaccines aim to prevent NEW infections

Well, usually, anyway. Because immunity is not guaranteed, the CCPVirus vaccines stated aim is to prevent worsening of symptoms and to prevent hospitalizations. So, these vaccines aren't a prophylactic so much as an early intervention and disease mitigation tool. Immunity is individual and depends on the individual's ability to manufacture antibodies. The vaccines are designed to boost manufacture of those antibodies. But 'an effective level' is still limited by the timeframe a particular individual takes to build up sufficient antibodies to mitigate the disease. In the elderly this may take longer than in a child. In an immuno-compromised elderly it may be never.

55 posted on 03/05/2021 6:50:33 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: null and void

“mRNA alterations have not been done on this scale - ever.”

That is true but I think that the increased death rate — if it is valid — has nothing to do with the vaccine being mRNA. It is just in the nature of coronavirus vaccines to cause pathogenic priming / ADE.


56 posted on 03/05/2021 7:12:50 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: pfony1
1. If the Covid death rates that were reported to us were deliberately inflated to increase hysteria, then why would declining death rates be reported to us now?

The elites now want us to return to normalcy. Under the Dems life returns to normal and the economy reopens, but Big Pharma gets its big pay day.

2. Consider how vaccines work. Vaccines use “weak” copies of viruses to “teach” our immune systems how to produce the antibodies that will fight and kill those specific viruses if an infection occurs. That is why it is wasteful to vaccinate a person against a virus that he already has and is already fighting.

Right, and older people have weaker immune systems. Some may not be able to fight that weak copy of the virus, or the mRNA could cause their immune systems to go haywire and interfere with their immune system to fight off the virus naturally. Thus, we see the infection rate go up after the first jab. Since on average the virus manifests five days after exposure, people getting the virus at higher rates in the first nine days is telling.

3. The “UK results” that I saw showed a pattern of more vaccinations and fewer deaths. Same as the US. A coincidence?

Not if the UK changed how it is reporting infections and attributing deaths to Coronavirus. The data about causes of death has been far from open, so it is difficult to judge if they are comparing apples to apples, or more likely, apples to oranges. None of that disproves what happened with the vaccine in Israel.

4. You said, “These vaccines are still experimental. The long term health consequence of them are completely unknown.” I disagree, but I say, “Go ahead. Reject vaccination. Herd immunity will eventually protect you.”
Or are you competing for The Darwin Award?


Not at all. The vaccine is experimental. No long term trials were conducted. That is a fact. People were stampeded into taking the vaccines based upon 1) hysteria from inflated numbers of Covid deaths, and 2) suppression of effective treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin. How many elderly people were in the trials? I don't think it was very many.
57 posted on 03/05/2021 7:24:26 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: lupie

Big pharma has a cure for everything ...

If the vaccine affects the uterus or unborn, we have the pill to abort of course. Bingo, no problem.


58 posted on 03/06/2021 7:07:45 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Uncle Miltie
Ping

Experimental vaccine death rate for Israel’s elderly 40 times higher than COVID-19 deaths: researchers
59 posted on 03/06/2021 3:15:59 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Uncle Miltie; All
According to this blogger in the U.K. using Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency data, the Pfizer vaccine has some serious issues with elderly fatalities:
The Pfizer product is around 28% more lethal than Astrazeneca’s product (212 deaths out of 29,715 plays 244 deaths out of 42,917).
This is especially significant given the Israeli data where only the Pfizer product was involved.

VIRUSECRECY SHOCK: Pfizer product 28% more lethal than Astrazeneca’s
60 posted on 03/07/2021 7:52:44 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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