Posted on 02/14/2021 5:07:44 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
Electric-vehicle drivers put about half as many miles on their cars as the average driver. At least, that's what a new study, conducted by researchers working for the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), is estimating. Those results are based on calculations that look at the increase in home energy usage for homes with EVs in California.
The study authors did not ask the EV drivers themselves. Nor did they check odometer readings through service records or using other methods. They do admit that getting that kind of information would be best but that these numbers are "within the vehicles themselves" and that automakers keep charging information private "due to strategic business interests and privacy
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“So how much gas is being saved by these short trips? Enough to buy a new battery pack?”
Bingo.
Do you know if either of these two had higher electric bills while they owned their EVs? And if so, about how much higher were they than before they owned them? I’ve been curious about that.
I wonder how many hours the typical electric car spends being charged over its lifetime.
I love it when ND gets bad press. I mean the winters are just horrible. The state tree is a telephone pole and the state bird is a mosquito.
ND’s bad reputation keeps out rif raf. I used to work at one of ND’s air bases and the young airmen would make very hateful remarks about ND, and I’d tell them to go home and tell their friends, to spread the word.
The problem now is too many people have figured out this is a safe place considering the political situation. Some days I swear I’m in Texas, as for some odd reason Texas plates are everywhere. Just lots and lots of out of state plates.
Temperatures tonight on the Northern Plains are in the teens below zero in some areas in the -20s. How far would your EV go tonight as cold saps battery capacity and you would need to run the electric heater, defroster and lights? My bet is you better hope there is a charging station very close by and plan on spending perhaps hours waiting for your recharge.
I have a BMW i3, and it has a two gallon generator for when the battery gets low. It will go about 80 miles on the gas.
I’ll be taking that car on a 1000 mile ride in a few weeks.
Its about 180 horse power, carbon fiber body. Fast as hell. I love driving it.
Depends on the trip and car.
My BMWi3, I can set the car temp and battery temp by using my android phone while the car is plugged in in the garage.
No doubt, if it’s ice cold, its a slow car until the battery is up to operating temp. You know it.
After you drive these cars you love them. I was a sceptic, but I love these things now.
“How far would your EV go tonight as cold saps battery capacity and you would need to run the electric heater, defroster and lights?”
The cabin heating is vicious at really cold temperatures. For a gasoline/diesel car, heat is a waste product of mechanical power from the engine...and most, if not all of it, is dumped overboard...until the weather is cold. Then that heat is put to work in the cabin!
If you look at Post 48 (right above yours) you’ll see where the heat associated with electric cars winds up...going right out of the stacks of fossil fuel plants (same for nukes). But the time you get the power, the heat associated with it is long gone, and you need to burn precious battery capacity, probably 5 to 10 kwh to fully warm up a subzero car. Couple that with the reduced battery capacity of a cold car and it’s obvious that gasoline cars still have them beat hands down, at least during cold waves.
My company car is 2 years old with 70,000. My wife’s 5 year old car has 80,000
12500 miles a year is nothing.
My car has 203,000 miles on it.
The other half they spend pushing.
This is going to go over real well with the single guy who might want to be able to stay over at his girlfriends house every once in a while.
Interesting, but sounds like a hassle. How is that going to work out when the car has a listed total range of 200 miles/with generator and the fast charging time takes 40 minutes?
The older male had $30,000 worth of solar panels installed and they run everything but his air conditioner. After all the taxpayer funded rebates his cost was $5000. The young female was not responsible for the electric bill where she lived.
I am glad you like your car. Not commenting on the EV nature of it, although the auxiliary gas drive is a wonderful invention and I’m wondering why many cars are strictly EV. My guess is that it’s a combination of virtue signaling on the part of the manufacturer and/or regulators. My problem with every new vehicle is the depreciation. If you were to add that value lost into the car payment I am convinced that NO ONE would buy a new car. I am posting the depreciation chart on the i3 below, but it’s probably similar to any new vehicle. At the Pick and Pull near me there is a line of Mercedes that look like they are in a high end used car lot. Some of them are really nice cars. I asked and one needs an engine...somewhere north of $13,000. Another a transmission...around $12,000. Then there are the ones needed computers that were used maybe one or two years. Those run thousands of dollars and are from junked cars with no guarantee they work. (I am currently building my new car, a 1948 flat six Plymouth. The next one in line is a ‘56 Studebaker. They will never be worth what I am putting into them, but restoring them won’t cost the first year’s depreciation on a new car.)
https://caredge.com/bmw/i3/depreciation
My last personal car got sold at 298000
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