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Constitutional experts: Fraud could put election outcome in state legislators' hands Analysis reveals lawmakers have 'total authority' to select electors
wnd.com ^ | 11/23/2020 | Wnd Staff

Posted on 11/24/2020 7:30:22 AM PST by rktman

In the instance of a "prima facie case" of "substantial computerized election fraud," they wrote, McCarthy "would have even those state legislators who become fully persuaded that the count was fraudulent to sit back and see the person that their constituents actually elected be de-throned by CNN and National Review."

"Legislators who want to carefully examine the election process, and take action if significant election fraud is found, would be simply giving effect to the vote of the people, not denying it. They should not, as Mr. McCarthy would want them to do, avert their eyes to the Big Steal."

They noted the U.S. Constitution "vests the total authority to select electors in state legislators, not governors, secretaries of

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And other "X-spurts" would disagree with this assessment. There will either be angry violence or celebratory violence regardless. The way I read it, Jan 6th is the day the joint houses tally and certify the electoral votes. Unless there is a challenge by at least one senator and one CONgress critter in writing. I could happen but who will be the ones with enough testicular fortitude to do it? Bueller? Bueller?
1 posted on 11/24/2020 7:30:23 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Whoa! Somebody actually read The Constitution instead of just pulling their little copy out of their breast pocket and waving it in the air Eric Bolling style?


2 posted on 11/24/2020 7:34:31 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: rktman

They definitely have the power. Whether they will use it or not is probably directly related to how much pressure can be put on them. There needs to be more rallies, even if it’s still only Alex Jones and Ali Alexander there to lead them.


3 posted on 11/24/2020 7:35:43 AM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <---)
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To: rktman
Legislators who want to carefully examine the election process

One problem, there aren't any.

4 posted on 11/24/2020 7:36:40 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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To: rktman

and if this happens....they will absolutely vote for the cheater


5 posted on 11/24/2020 7:37:19 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: rktman

As I see it, at this point with time for lawsuits running out, this is the only possibility of President Trump being re-elected.


6 posted on 11/24/2020 7:38:04 AM PST by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Yes, it’s a question of Will

Rallies are a good idea but it should be Don Jr. if not the President.


7 posted on 11/24/2020 7:38:46 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: rktman

By the time this is over, someone will be perceived as having “seized power” by half the country. It might as well be us.

Take it to the states. Force the issue. Give Trump a second term. The Constitution provides a lawful path for this.

The alternative is to let Biden steal the election in an unlawful way. Everyone knows he’s stealing it. It’s just frustrating to have to “prove it”. Take it to the states openly and let the state delegations give Trump his second term. Someone is seizing power. It might as well be us.


8 posted on 11/24/2020 7:39:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: rktman

“Analysis”? It’s in the Constitution. Very plain language.

Remember this coming up during the Supreme Court oral arguments in the Bush v. Palm Beach Canvassing Board, et al (not the second case Bush v. Gore) - Justice O’Connor pointedly asked when the Florida attorney defending Palm Beach County was discussing the Florida law for the appointment of Electors, she said “I suppose Article II gives the legislature a choice - it could itself appoint the electors” to which he replied “Yes, your honor, we would agree with that.”


9 posted on 11/24/2020 7:40:13 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: rktman

Following the Constitution is not the Democrats’ style.


10 posted on 11/24/2020 7:40:25 AM PST by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: ConservativeDude

Death and life are on the power of the tongue and those who love it shall eat its fruits. Proverbs 18:21. Be careful of what you say because what will come should this happen will be 1000000 worse than you can imagine.


11 posted on 11/24/2020 7:41:40 AM PST by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Zman

As I see it, at this point with time for lawsuits running out...


“Close” only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear war. They only have to get them covered BEFORE time runs out. It can be a week before, an hour before, or a minute before. And since the deadline has not come, and we are not privy to what they are actually doing in the courts, our hand wringing is pointless.

When the deadline comes, either they were successful or they were not. And we won’t know until then. The rest is speculation.


12 posted on 11/24/2020 7:43:32 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The democommies-——”Constitution? 😂😂😂😂😂😂! Oh, THAT.😂😂😂”


13 posted on 11/24/2020 7:44:37 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

The same legislators that allowed themselves to be usurped by various entities changing how voting works in their states?


14 posted on 11/24/2020 7:45:04 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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There is not a single legislature that will go against existing state law and appoint their own slate of electors without the courts first ruling that there was fraud on such a large scale that the election was invalid.


15 posted on 11/24/2020 7:47:32 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Golden Eagle

The framers of the Constitution were concerned that England would try to interfere in our presidential elections, which is why they put in so many safeguards. We need to both pressure Republican legislators and assure them that we have their backs and they will be protected.

It wouldn’t hurt if the next “activist” to threaten a lawmaker or canvas board member was immediately arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Last week the families of Michigan canvas board members were openly threatened without repercussions. This cannot be allowed to happen again.


16 posted on 11/24/2020 7:48:14 AM PST by Junk Silver (Old FR maxim: "You can't steal a landslide." Joe Biden: "Hold my beer...")
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To: ConservativeDude

Following the adage, “If I frighten you enough, I can control you”, I think there needs to be an element of fear built into this ... fear of what will happen not just to individuals, but to America if a fraud of this magnitude is allowed by the state legislators to stand.


17 posted on 11/24/2020 7:51:43 AM PST by glennaro (Going through life ignorant and afraid is truly no way to live, but the Democrat/Left doesn't agree)
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To: rktman

As the SCs do not remotely want to be seen as the choosers of winners and losers, the evidence I expect they’ll see will leave them little choice but to say to those states in dispute:

“we see fraud, here, here, and here, so it’s now prescribed in the constitution. State electors decide.”

If evidence is as biblical and convincing as we know it is, it should be an easy job. Ds will bitch regardless, but might have even their arguments shredded.

Go Sidney, Lin, Rudy, & Jenna


18 posted on 11/24/2020 7:53:16 AM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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Will any legislature have the guts to do this?

I doubt it.

The current assessment of the fraud is far too clinical and far to deep in legalese. This situation can only be tried in the court of public opinion. All I needed to see was the instant massive gain for biden at the very same time in both mi and wi on Wednesday morning. Game over, not possible for that to happen without massive manipulation of the vote. It may have plausible deniability but only if there are also unicorns and the sun rises in the west. I still don’t need to make a scientific investigation to know that where there is smoke there is fire nor do I have to actually be hit with a bullet to know I am being shot at.

This is one where the decision has to be made by gut feel and my gut says without doubt to pull the trigger on fraud but I don’t get a vote in this any more than I now get a vote in an election.

In my little piss ant world I would invalidate the whole freaking election, declare a national emergency and do the damn thing over again under MUCH different conditions. Iknow that will never happen but it is what I would do. Things are way too far out of hand and for too long.


19 posted on 11/24/2020 7:54:09 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: Junk Silver

Outstanding points. Unfortunately the DOJ of today has reinforced the recent indication that mob rule is the new law of the land. We must learn to not only survive in that new environment, but thrive. Trump has repeatedly proven he can raise an army of supporters overnight, and hopefully will soon. If not, we must organically do what we can.


20 posted on 11/24/2020 7:55:19 AM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <---)
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