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Two national polls out today: Reuters has Biden +10 and NBC has Biden +14
NBC and Reuters ^ | October 5, 2020 | Me

Posted on 10/04/2020 6:40:04 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

Reuters link

https://t.co/mCdTllTVuk

NBC poll

https://t.co/KJicRpznHq

Umm, this needs to turn around quickly or else the Senate will be a total wash out too.


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To: antidemoncrat
He doesn’t think he has to campaign because of the polls. Just like Hillary he will coast into second place unless the phony mail in ballot ploy works.

Soros 2nd in command went to the basement: "Joe, relax. The fix is in. The ballot fraud system now in place has put you over the top. Coast and don't say anything controvesial until the week after November 3rd. Unless our ballot printing post-election machines burn out you are the next President."

Biden: "Gosh I love this country. And Mr. Soros, of course."

261 posted on 10/04/2020 4:04:41 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: damper99; All

I hope the nation likes the change that a blue wave will bring, as there won’t be any going back after that.
______________________________________________

Can those convinced Trump will lose and CCP-style communism will win:

Can you tell us how you are preparing? What is your game plan going forward?


262 posted on 10/04/2020 4:32:45 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: frank ballenger

We have had many cancerous tumors in this Republic trying to destroy it, but none as dangerous as Soros who has said the USA is the only thing standing in the way of a global government. Gee I wonder who Soros wants to be the head of that? Maybe a son?


263 posted on 10/04/2020 4:37:02 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (Biden's)
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To: Gahanna Bob

We just had a Truckers for Trump Rally here in Champaign County. A TEN mile long parade
45trucks and about 100 pickups


264 posted on 10/04/2020 4:54:26 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Remember the names Reuters and NBC on November 4th as pushers of ‘FAKE NEWS’.


265 posted on 10/04/2020 4:58:14 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: reformedliberal

To the idiots like the alleged anti-Trump seniors and suburban women, remember like China,Cuba and Venezuela you vote yourself into Marxist takeover and have to fight your way out later. Not a good plan, fools.

A woman I heard on a right wing talk show said “I am a suburban woman and the anti-Trump wave is a myth.”


266 posted on 10/04/2020 5:57:39 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: CaptainK

I don’t buy that at all. Why would anyone be embarrassed or uncomfortable admitting they support Trump to a random anonymous pollster in a private phone call?

Also, the rallies, boat parades, etc etc kind of fly in the face of the claim that there is a “shy” Trump vote.


267 posted on 10/04/2020 6:23:51 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: CaptainK

Possible but I think what we had here was a poll of registered voters, smaller sample size and Democrats oversampled. That would produce these results.


268 posted on 10/04/2020 7:14:56 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: HamiltonJay

Well, supposedly Trump is losing ground with seniors and suburban women. Seniors, I guess due to the virus. For some reason they don’t think Trump did enough to what??? That I don’t know.

Suburban women must be brain dead. There is no other explanation.


269 posted on 10/04/2020 7:36:04 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Okay.. right. And Hillary was going to win GA by 10 and PA by 8..

Sorry folks load of dung.

Show me a single poll that asked who did you vote for in 16? and who are you planning to vote for in 20? That doesn’t show net
Movement toward Trump and then I’ll believe it.

None I have seen show anything but net movement toward Trump regardless of what their headline says.


270 posted on 10/04/2020 7:56:45 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: reformedliberal
"The progs have a limited playbook...
It is all theater."

I hope you're right and I hope the results put a lot of fake-news fake-polls out of business -- or at least strip them of all semblance of credibility.

271 posted on 10/05/2020 2:53:13 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: St. Louis Conservative; CaptainK; DarthVader
"Why would anyone be embarrassed or uncomfortable admitting they support Trump to a random anonymous pollster in a private phone call?"

You're kidding, right?
First of all, I don't even answer my phone if I don't recognize the caller-ID, so any pollsters are not going to get through to me.

Second, anybody who knows me knows my views and knows they don't change -- you could fill out my questionnaire without even asking me, just take all the most conservative pro-Trump answers.
So what do pollsters make of people like you & me?
We're the base, we're solid, and the only question for us is, what percent of us will vote?
Well, normally the answer is: nearly 100%, but this year...
This year with mass mailings maybe our ballots get "lost" and others substituted... could it happen?
I don't know -- most certainly not in my local precinct, but who knows what goes on in the big cities?

So I suspect these pro-Biden polls are telling us what will happen if Democrats are entirely successful in "harvesting" their big-city voter base.

272 posted on 10/05/2020 3:18:28 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: cowboyusa

I am thinking Trump is up 2 nationally in the popular vote. But, hey, I’d much rather see it in the numbers than in my model.


273 posted on 10/05/2020 3:33:18 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: HamiltonJay

In 2016, the RCP poll average had Trump up 4.8pts in Georgia. He won by 5.1pts, almost exact.


274 posted on 10/05/2020 5:37:54 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

There was a poll during the cycle claiming Hillary up 10 in GA at one point... it was as laughable as these two


275 posted on 10/05/2020 5:53:29 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

The left is trying to say that the Trump campaign is running low on cash. I realize that Biden is getting money from BLM, Soros, and rich celebrities, but I don’t see how Trump’s campaign could be low on cash. This is nuts.


276 posted on 10/05/2020 4:10:04 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I trust zero out of the MSM. They have spent 4+ years lying about everything to do with Trump...

But claims Biden is up 10-15 nationally are just comical.

Sorry but that’s saying Biden is going to beat Trump like Reagan beans Mondale.. it’s ludicrous.

Again. I have issues this challenge for months

Show me any poll any one. State or National that asks these 2 basic questions:

Who did you vote for in 16?

And

Who do you plan to vote for in 20?

That shows the net movement in the results of those questions that isn’t toward Trump.

Show me one, just one.

To date I have not seen any one nor has anyone been able to provide me with one.

I don’t care what the top headline of the poll says, until you show me a poll showing Trump is not gaining support via those questions the top line is garbage.

If Trump is going to lose, let alone lose BIG, you need to see massive movement away from him... yet, not on single poll I have seen, that provides that info shows anything but net gains for Trump not losses.

Can manipulate headline by sampling and weighting but can’t manipulate raw data. And raw data for those 2 standard questions would need to be showing massive movement away from Trump for Biden to win big. And movement away from Trump for Biden to win at all...

Yet to date I have not seen 1 poll national, state or otherwise taken by anyone that shows this. Not one


277 posted on 10/06/2020 6:16:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Good! Keep talking to me. I’m one of the pearl clutchers. ;-)

I will crawl over broken glass, if necessary, to vote Republican on election day. Just because I worry at times, does not mean I will give up.


278 posted on 10/06/2020 12:31:13 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Well when you find yourself clutching pearls, just ask yourself what states do you think he won in 16 that he is going to lose in 20?

I can tell you there is no way he’s losing FL, NC, OH or PA

So what’s left?

He’d have to lose all of MI, WI and AZ and not pick up anything else.

And even then neither person gets 270.. which would hand it to the house who clearly would install Biden.. and the senate would install a GOP VP.

Want to see crap get ugly, see how that goes over.

I am personally not worried .. the polls are crap and Biden can’t draw a crowd to save his life.

In fact the most vocal advocates for him aren’t life long democrats. But the remaining nevertrumpers.

Could Biden somehow win? Anything is possible, but any poll claiming either one of them is up 16 points is ludicrous on its face..

That’s Reagan V Mondale territory... and there is no way in hell Thats happening.

My expectation is Trump will overperform 16 across the board. He will take every state he took in 16 and add most if not all states he lost by less than 5.

Which means he adds NV, NH, MN to name a few.

We will see how it plays out. But remember Hillary was up 12 in the polls on 10/23/2016...

Relax


279 posted on 10/06/2020 1:11:07 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Thanks! I’m going to shadow your posts until election day, and make sure I have enough wine on hand.


280 posted on 10/06/2020 1:22:26 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to be able to do something to be hired to do it.)
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