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US military investigating report of possible drone flying close to Air Force One
CNN ^ | August 18, 2020 | Betsy Klein and Barbara Starr

Posted on 08/19/2020 6:49:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

The Air Force's 89th Airlift Wing is reviewing a report after people traveling aboard Air Force One on Sunday saw an object that appeared to be a drone as the plane was landing at Joint Base Andrews outside Washington.

"We were making the approach, but not yet in the final landing run. I saw a thing with a kind of X shape and part of it was yellow. That's all I can say," a witness told CNN.

"This was a brief moment, obviously, but not flashing by," the witness said. "I had long enough to do a double take, then wonder if my eyes were playing tricks on me, and then decide that yes, this was definitely something in the air and only a short distance below and a bit off to the side of our plane."

If a drone were to have come close to Air Force One, that would be a major security breach. Drones are banned in the restricted national security airspace around Washington.

"The matter is under review. The 89th Airlift Wing's C-32A aircraft landed safely without incident," the statement said.

The White House declined to comment.

The witness said the person seated behind them also observed the object, and turned around to ask if they had also seen it.

A US official who could not be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue told CNN there is a sensor system at Joint Base Andrews that would have, or should have, detected an unauthorized airborne object. They have gone back through the initial feeds and the computers don't show anything. They are continuing to investigate.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: airforceone; drone; trump; uas
Note: This is the 757 2-engine version Boeing used to carry POTUS to smaller airports, not the 747 4-engine Boeing version used for larger airports.

The 757 could be much more vulnerable to a single drone strike knocking out one turbofan during final approach.

See discussion in earlier thread:

"Air Force One Just Had A Near Miss With A Drone According To Reporter Onboard"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3875304/posts?page=69

1 posted on 08/19/2020 6:49:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

And of course the mediapukes are giddy over it!


2 posted on 08/19/2020 6:50:09 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Seizethecarp

Does anyone doubt that the deep state is trying to knock Trump off? They’ve do everything but.


3 posted on 08/19/2020 6:55:20 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Seizethecarp

Even if it is true, CNN as the source? CNN????


4 posted on 08/19/2020 6:57:40 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Seizethecarp

Anyone on AF 1 talking to a lowly, despicable CNN reporter deserves to be thrown off the plane.

Well before it lands.

Not kidding.


5 posted on 08/19/2020 7:01:45 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Seizethecarp

Not sure about that

757 can fly on one engine

Less stuff to be debris, its not like one engine hit hits the second engine on the same wing on a 747


6 posted on 08/19/2020 7:05:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Seizethecarp

757 is a bit more agile than the 747 as well


7 posted on 08/19/2020 7:05:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: doc maverick

Drones can also be part of the security force.


8 posted on 08/19/2020 7:05:46 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: DarthVader

That’s good to know. He needs a huge security force. All hand picked! He needs people like Clint Eastwood in that older movie-can’t remember that name of it right off hand.


9 posted on 08/19/2020 7:12:08 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: doc maverick

And WHO BTW is the head of the “DEEP STATE”.


10 posted on 08/19/2020 7:20:13 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: doc maverick

In the Line of Fire?

Clint, Renee Russo, John Malkovich...


11 posted on 08/19/2020 7:20:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: NIKK

Good thread on the drone here.


12 posted on 08/19/2020 7:28:35 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice. .DJT)
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To: Biggirl

Follow the money.


13 posted on 08/19/2020 7:48:24 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: EEGator

That’s right! Watched it on hulu a couple months ago. Good movie.


14 posted on 08/19/2020 7:49:26 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: doc maverick

That was a good flick.
It came out right around the same time as another good flick...The Fugitive.


15 posted on 08/19/2020 7:52:26 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Secret Agent Man

“757 can fly on one engine”

As discussed in the other thread, if one engine gets knocked off the wing, the airframe becomes unstable. This has been the experience in bird strike and other situations where the turbofan explodes and goes off the pylon. Several 747 and 2-engine wide-bodies have been lost due the bird strikes when thrust on one side of the airframe is lost on a plane that is supposed to fly with loss of one turbofan.

Drone strikes, intentional or accidental, could be expected to be similar or worse due to very hard parts in some drones compared to birds.


16 posted on 08/19/2020 9:37:47 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I also thought of the comparison to “bird strikes”. But modern turbofan engines can take a hit — at least by a single bird — so I think a small X-wing quad copter would be similarly shrugged off.

The miracle on the Hudson River? There I think Sulzberger’s plane hit a flock of migrating birds. I may be wrong, but where ducks & geese are involved at that time of year you’re seldom looking at a single strike.


17 posted on 08/20/2020 4:01:09 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Tallguy

A quick search shows Virginia Tech has done some detailed simulations showing how an 8 lb drone can destroy a turbofan. They conclude that turbofans need to be redesigned to handle this risk!

https://www.uasvision.com/2015/11/09/drone-strikes-could-cause-jet-engine-failure/


18 posted on 08/20/2020 6:25:24 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Tallguy

Better story says FAA is using Virginia Tech to do the reseach and has two simulated videos of crashes of 8 lbs and 4 lbs drones into turbofans.

https://www.911security.com/news/this-is-what-happens-when-a-drone-gets-sucked-into-a-jet-engine-video

A deliberate attack on POTUS could easily employ a drone in excess of 8 lbs.


19 posted on 08/20/2020 6:37:10 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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