It's been 23 days since #coronavirus cases started to spike, but deaths continue to decline. The median days from onset of symptoms to death is 18.5. pic.twitter.com/Vz6OhlMPRZ
— Matt Margolis 🇺🇸 (@mattmargolis) July 7, 2020
Posted on 07/08/2020 7:55:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Just as soon as states started to reopen, a surge in coronavirus cases put the brakes on those plans. Talk about a second wave has conveniently reignited fears about the coronavirus right as the country is itching to get back to normal, or as close to normal as possible.
But the media wants you to be afraid. They are counting on people to focus on the headlines and be ignorant of the data.
What is the data telling us?
The death count for COVID-19 has been declining long enough that if it continues, COVID-19 will no longer be considered an epidemic by the CDC in a few weeks. Some have argued that the lag between cases and deaths is a moot point because of the lag between diagnoses and deaths. So, let’s take that into account.
The spike in cases appears to have started on June 14, 2020, which makes perfect sense because most people develop symptoms within two weeks of infection, and the George Floyd riots started at the end of May. Studies suggest that deaths from COVID-19 occur between 15 and 22 days, with a median of 18.5, after becoming symptomatic.
It’s reasonable to assume that most of the people who get tested do so because they’ve experienced symptoms. But even if only half of those who have tested positive during the recent spike of cases were symptomatic when they were tested, a spike in deaths should have occurred by now because it’s been 23 days since the spike in cases started. But, as the charts below indicate, there hasn’t been a spike in deaths yet:
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It's been 23 days since #coronavirus cases started to spike, but deaths continue to decline. The median days from onset of symptoms to death is 18.5. pic.twitter.com/Vz6OhlMPRZ
— Matt Margolis 🇺🇸 (@mattmargolis) July 7, 2020
Looking at the above graphs, should we be concerned with the SPIKE in Hospitalizations?
Absolutely.
2 things the media won’t tell you:
1. Deaths are flat or dropping
2. # of people who recovered.
Subtract the recoveries from new cases and its a low number I suspect.
In the news!! I can’t find them anywhere else.
In our county, our deaths from CV only happened after the re-opening.
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The count of corona virus has increased to count viruses lumped together. The common cold is a corona virus.
No, NY and NJ were killing their elderly hand over fist. 10,000 elderly in NY alone did not need to die. Next, the Trump pill works in combo with Z-Packs and there are better late treatment options. Also, doctors are not killing people wholesale by shoving them on respirators much too early (death rate in NY was 88% for respirator patients, twice the normal rate).
There were a ton of mistakes (thousands died needlessly) made that seemed to have been corrected so we are never going back to NY and NJ again. Unless of course the Northern Governors decide to murder a few thousand additional people.
Most hospitalizations are elective surgery patients returning from a long spell away.
I read somewhere that genetically modified viruses slowly lose their modified property over multiple generations. Maybe we are at the point where multiple strains of the virus have downgraded enough that they are not as lethal as they were at the beginning of the pandemic.
“... should we be concerned with the SPIKE in Hospitalizations?”
Depends on how those hospitalizations are characterized. Many people who put off treatments or surgeries in the past months are now having them done, and if they test positive for the Wuflu, some places list them as COVID hospitalizations. Other reports show little or no increase in the number of beds used for patients with severe COVID infections, even as their total bed use goes up.
It’s hard to cypher the numbers if everyone is using different standards.
Thanks to the Northern Hemisphere summer, people are getting enough Sun exposure to get “natural” Vitamin D to reduce their chance of getting sick from COVID-19.
RE: Thanks to the Northern Hemisphere summer, people are getting enough Sun exposure to get “natural” Vitamin D to reduce their chance of getting sick from COVID-19.
What accounts for the spike in Covid-19 cases in India?
Are they hospitalized BECAUSE of covid or WITH covid? Recent reports in Houston suggest that the vast majority are hospitalized WITH covid not BECAUSE of covid. Big difference that the scaremongerers will never differentiate.
It depends — word on the street is the rise in hospitalizations is due to folks having elective procedures done which were postpone due to covid restrictions earlier. One would need a source which specifically breaks out the numbers vice an meaningless overall number.
Indian cities have some of the worst air pollution outside of China. That makes many Indian citizens vulnerable to COVID-19 due to compromised pulmonary systems.
The Excess Deaths page of the CDC website makes clear the death totals are not from misattribution. Deaths from ALL causes are way up this year month by month compared to previous years.
Hospitalization increases are mostly a result of the stimulus package paying hospitals more money for Covid cases. Everybody gets tested and kept if positive, even if asymptomatic and the person came into ER for an injury. They get paid by the day so they keep people.
ICU data is stupid. ICUs operate at 95% as a normal matter. They were 90%+ last year. Again, hospitals can bill more, particularly Medicare, for ICU patients.
Deaths are elderly. There was a big death spike yesterday as 4th catchup took place. But the day before yesterday, Monday, deaths were above the previous Monday’s. Deaths are flattening. They don’t look like they are going to zero.
These are Covid deaths, as above not misattributed because they show as Excess above All Causes. It looks like this virus is going to add about 700 deaths/day to the US, all elderly. This is 220K/year. The elderly die each year numbering 2 million in the US. So this will be over a 10% increase in yearly elderly deaths.
No society will tolerate that.
The state of Florida alone has over 67,000 hospital beds (just Google, it’s easy to find). During the peak of Covid-19 hysteria the vast majority of those beds sat empty, and hospital staff were told to stay home.
As a nation, 60,000 hospitalizations nationwide hardly risked exhausting the capacity to treat sick people, just as the current and rising 40,000 number also comes no where close (to exhausting capacity).
However, scary headlines — perhaps intended to scare — do evoke certain reactions.
I heard from nurse that up until few weeks ago, those that were tested positive & asymptomatic were sent home but now they’re being admitted/treated.
Hospitals aren’t being overwhelmed..if anything, people are being laid off
Also, if one or more people at a business test positive..all required to be tested. That could be reason for younger people testing positive.
Take with grain of salt, that’s what I’m being told.
I’m in CA
Per my comment above, the stimulus package pays hospitals more money for Covid patients per day. They have incentive to keep them. They needed a way to offset the loss of elective surgeries.
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