US-China big chill may freeze out Chinese students from American university research labs

South China Morning Post ^ | 05/28/2020 | Simone McCarthy

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American universities may be next to feel the big chill in China-US relations as a group of US lawmakers are proposing a bill to ban mainland Chinese from studying science and technology in the United States, arguing they pose a threat to national security.

The two senators and one member of the House of Representatives on Wednesday said the Secure Campus Act would effectively bar Chinese nationals from receiving visas for graduate or postgraduate study in so-called STEM (science, technology, engineering and mathematics) fields. Those from Taiwan and Hong Kong would be exempt.

“The Chinese Communist Party has long used American universities to conduct espionage on the United States,” said Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, one of the sponsors of the bill and a critic of Beijing.

“What’s worse is that their efforts exploit gaps in current law. It’s time for that to end,” he said. “The Secure Campus Act will protect our national security and maintain the integrity of the American research enterprise.”

The proposed legislation comes as diplomatic relations have fractured between the world’s two largest economies. The fissures started to show during a trade war that has been rumbling on for almost two years and have only widened amid accusations about the handling of the Covid-19 disease outbreak, and the treatment of ethnic minority groups in China.

Hong Kong is the latest flashpoint after Beijing drew up a national security law that Washington says tramples on the city’s mini-constitution. The US threatened retaliation over the move.

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And this is bad, how?

[SeekAndFind]

Meanwhile, earlier this month a professor at the University of Arkansas who received millions of dollars in research grants, including $500,000 from NASA, was arrested and charged with one count of wire fraud.

According to the FBI, Ang failed to disclose that he was getting paid by a Chinese university and Chinese companies in violation of university policy. He is accused of making false statements while failing to disclose his extensive ties to China as a member of the "Thousand Talents Scholars" program.

63-year-old Simon Saw-Teong Ang is the director of the school's High Density Electronics Center, which received funding from the National Science Foundation (NSF), Department of Energy (DOE), Department of Defense (DOD) and NASA. Since 2013, Ang has been the primary investigator or co-investigator on US government-funded grants totaling over $5 million, according to the Washington Examiner.

[Night Hides Not]

American universities that have not properly reported money received from China MUST be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[Starcitizen]

More jobs for American STEM graduates that have been locked out of industry for decades due to the OPT program. Deport all the Communist Chinese and Indian slimeballs. Time to Make America Great Again..

[hinckley buzzard]

Cotton is right. Chinese students are controlled by the PLA and basically function as foreign agents of a hostile regime.

[PGR88]

I work with higher education. There are many extremely bright American students. At America’s top universities, I see 90% are attracted in some angle of finance. A physics major from MIT or Stanford will have more job offers from Wall Street than from any other industry.

We promote our best youth to move money around. China has trained theirs to be scientifically productive.

[PGalt]

GREAT NEWS! What will UNIPARTARIANS do?

535+++++ vs. 330 MILLION - snowflakes - turncoats.

Choices: Every day you have to make them. To post, or not to post.

[1Old Pro]

a group of US lawmakers are proposing a bill to ban mainland Chinese from studying science and technology in the United States, arguing they pose a threat to national security.

How about a PAUSE instead of a ban, that's a word the Left seems to like. And we can PAUSE, well, forever.

[PGalt]

CHYna is azzhole.

[Olog-hai]

… [Karl Marx] envisioned a regimented breed of Pavlovian men whose minds could be triggered into instant action by signals from their masters. He wanted a race of men who would no longer depend upon free will, morals, ethics or conscience for guidance. Perhaps without realizing it, Marx was setting out to create a race of human beings conditioned to think like criminals. …

— The Naked Communist, chapter 2

Yes, that is the kind of people who come here as students from Red China.

[rlmorel]

My heart bleeds peanut butter and jelly.

[Stepan12]

I was going to say that, but you said it before me.

[Crucial]

Those elite universities might have to stop to accepting Americans, maybe even, gasp, white Americans.

[Tell It Right]

"Cotton is right. Chinese students are controlled by the PLA and basically function as foreign agents of a hostile regime.:

I agree 100% with you. In fact, China has a term for this program of having many of their citizens spying no us: the Thousand Talents program.

[ifinnegan]

It’ll never happen.

[ConsCA]

“
Cotton is right. Chinese students are controlled by the PLA and basically function as foreign agents of a hostile regime.”

Partially right. Not just the students and Postdocs, but it’s every Chinese national in this country, they are all spies. it doesn’t matter if they are here on a STEM program, run a small business, or work in Corporate America - it is a large army of spies.

The interesting thing about students and the postdocs after they finish their work at American universities, many not all will apply for regular positions at American companies and their goal is to further integrate into American society but also to spy.

[Twotone]

We are the STUPIDEST country in the world. We let people come in from anywhere & offer them university-level education almost for free by giving them Graduate Teaching & Research Assistant tuition remissions. It’s insane. Tuition remissions should be limited to US citizens. Period. Let foreign students who want to study here fund their own education & KEEP THEM OUT of sensitive research projects, especially those funded by the federal government.

[Reily]

The respective state legislators could have a big say in this if they would think for a minute and stop viewing the schools are sources of football & basketball tickets.

The legislatures could pass a state law regulating admission to state supported institutions where a state citizen has highest priority in admittance, followed by an American citizen, then a foreign student but only if there are slots available. (They did way back! Its on the books however its routinely ignored for foreign students!). Do the same for graduate students, let the only way to circumvent this is with a sworn signed statement with documentation that the potential graduate student’s skill are so spectacular and no American student who applied can match them. Failure to do so or produce false documentation is a state crime where the school and administrators (including the school President!) are subject to fine, expulsion and possible imprisonment. (I bet this law is also on the books in many places but again is routinely ignored!) It also should apply to foreign professors. I have seen this personally multiple times where a foreign prof (non-citizen or citizen foreign born) gets an administrative academic position. They then routinely hire their fellow landsmen. To them its not wrong!. In Turd World countries if tribe\clan A is successful in something like gets a lucrative position (or position of power!) its expected and morally right in their culture to make the gravy flow for their family, clan & tribe. I’ve seen a foreign chairmen of a department named & soon a heavy percentage the faculty hires (and grad students) are family, clan, tribe & nation.

I know the snappy sophisticated academic comeback for all of this is to claim there is “education value by having foreign students on campus!”. My answer is ‘Ok show me! Show me any measurable results where tests scores or grades of American students have improved due to the presence of foreign students.’

And yes I understand the foreign policy advantages of this, but I think they’re overstated. Likewise the “good deeds” & charitable considerations. You can have too much of anything even if it a first blush looks good!

Basically because its been abused so badly it just creates a loop hole where US taxpayers pay for the advancement of our adversaries. 360,000 thousand Chinese student nationals in US academia thats too many. After the PRC’s behavior over the Wuhan Flu right now one PRC student or prof is too many!
Do people realize there are 30,000 Iranian students here. I guarantee they are not taking liberal arts, “studies” & humanities! They’re taking STEM courses, again we are arming our adversaries.

[Lurker]

Good. Kick every last Chinese national out of the US now.

NOW!

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