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Is Hydroxychloroquine hype hampering enrollment in Gilead’s Covid-19 drug trials?
Medcity ews ^ | 04/14/2020 | By ALARIC DEARMENT

Posted on 04/14/2020 11:57:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/14/2020 11:57:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Kind of like asking is the water at the oasis hampering the fig/date business...


2 posted on 04/14/2020 11:59:15 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SeekAndFind

heard this stuff costs $1000 a dose


3 posted on 04/14/2020 12:01:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Joe Biden/Zombie Reagan in 2020 - Braaaaaains!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The people’s automobiles are hindering the expansion of bus routes.


4 posted on 04/14/2020 12:01:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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8 billion people on the planet, and they can’t find anyone for their trials because of HCQ- Yeah okie dokie then-


5 posted on 04/14/2020 12:01:39 PM PDT by Bob434
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heard this stuff costs $1000 a dose

5 days of the HCQ therapy costs $20.00.

Why let the fox into the hen house?


6 posted on 04/14/2020 12:02:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (Hydroxy-chloroquine, she isss jour fren ! Know the Zelenko Protocol)
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It just burns Big Pharma that the treatment for potentially the biggest money maker disease in history was developed decades ago. The patent is even expired. Who can make money on a generic 50 cent dose of miracle drug?


7 posted on 04/14/2020 12:07:52 PM PDT by hardspunned
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RE: heard this stuff costs $1000 a dose

Yep, that’s the deal. The mentality seems to be — the more expensive something is, the more “proven” it will have been.

WHY? Because it shall have gone through the very expensive PHASED trials the FDA requires before approval ( which of course, requires the maker to spend millions ).


8 posted on 04/14/2020 12:08:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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The reason the China Virus totals in NYC are looking better is because they are now allowing the use of HCQ. In fact it is being used all across the country now and in many places around the world. Reports so far are 95+% positive regarding the efficacy of the “Trump Drugs” and this is why you seldom hear anything from the Liberal media about it.

MY guess is when they put together enough statistics showing how positive the drug can be they will use it when the President announces it is time for us to go back to work.

Calvin Coolidge-”...the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with producing, buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world.”

Let’s get to it.


9 posted on 04/14/2020 12:09:09 PM PDT by billyboy15
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Well, I believe the subjects for the trial have to already have the China Virus.

If you had it and had a choice between the HCL and the Remdesiver which would you choose?


10 posted on 04/14/2020 12:12:39 PM PDT by billyboy15
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RE: Reports so far are 95+% positive regarding the efficacy of the “Trump Drugs” and this is why you seldom hear anything from the Liberal media about it.

I’m not sure where you are getting that 95+% from.

I’ll grant that this 95+% figure came from non-randomized trials and administration by Dr. Didier Raoult of France and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko of upstate New York. NYC doctor, Dr. William Grace also gave us a figure close to that in his own practice. So did Dr. Stephen Smith of NJ.

However, I have been waiting in vain on the other hand for New York state to give us their numbers, as well as other hospitals around the country.

If you have the sources, we would all be glad to learn about them.


11 posted on 04/14/2020 12:13:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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“...Foster City, California-based Gilead launched the two randomized, but non-blinded trials – comparing remdesivir and standard treatment with standard treatment alone – last month...”
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Hmmmm.... “randomized but NON-BLINDED trials” for Gilead’s drug. But for the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail treatment they insist upon randomized DOUBLE BLIND PLACEBO CONTROLLED trials - which are being conducted now. Interesting double standard.

Anyhow, I’m glad at least the Hydroxychloroquine cocktail regimen is getting the “gold standard” trial treatment.


12 posted on 04/14/2020 12:15:27 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT)
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the problem is that remdesivir is not very effective.

“Of the 53 patients whose data were analyzed,
22 were in the United States, 22 in Europe or Canada,
and 9 in Japan,”
New England Journal of Medicine.
“In this cohort of patients hospitalized for severe
Covid-19 who were treated with compassionate-use remdesivir,
clinical improvement was observed in 36 of 53 patients
(68%).”
https://www.foxnews.com/scienc…ng-early-promise-research

so tough cookies for Gilead.
people can take the known cure,
or the useless unproven vaccine of Gates,
or the not effective alternative.

easy choice.


13 posted on 04/14/2020 12:15:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( WWG1WGA)
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“If you have the sources, we would all be glad to learn about them.”

Of course I don’t have them. There aren’t any besides the ones you mentioned and a few single anecdotal instances such as the Democrat Congressman/woman from Mich and a few others.

I expect the numbers from NY will be overwhelmingly positive but will be spun by the media as inconclusive because the tests didn’t go on long enough or they didn’t use a control group (I never did hear they were doing that anyway).


14 posted on 04/14/2020 12:19:45 PM PDT by billyboy15
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oh i thought at first it was for a vaccine trial- (Didn’t read through hte article=- per usual- my bad) which if so then that would have meant getting it before getting hte virus- but the drug here is treatment for the virus, not vaccine- so yeah, you’re right-


15 posted on 04/14/2020 12:20:29 PM PDT by Bob434
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“millions”???

The pharma industry passed that benchmark decades ago.

Today it costs 2,500 millions to bring a new drug to market. That is $2.5 BILLION.

It takes one successful drug to make up for the other 30 drugs that didn’t become commercial successes.

In R&D, you typically see 1,000 ideas in the basic research hopper, 100 get to the applied research hopper, 10 get to serious development and ONE emerges as a commercial product — and that ONE may or may not succeed in the market.

People just do not understand how the product development funnel works.


16 posted on 04/14/2020 12:21:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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that’s down from a $100,000 treatment regimen. A Bargain. /s

The MSM is pushing this and not HCQ because they see Humira sized $ signs in their dying future.


17 posted on 04/14/2020 12:26:04 PM PDT by UNGN
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Poor Bill Gates may not become a Trillionaire.


18 posted on 04/14/2020 12:29:48 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Let's say you're in day 3 of serious COVID-19 symptoms and you have a choice:

A - Enroll in Gilead's test and face a 50% chance of receiving a placebo.

B - Get a scrip for the HCQ/Z-pack combo knowing you have a 95% chance of feeling better in a matter of hours.

Are you going to whine about the lack of a double-blind study of the HCQ?

19 posted on 04/14/2020 12:32:55 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Maybe the right headline should be “Is Hydroxycholoroquine Endangering Big Pharma Gravy Train?”


20 posted on 04/14/2020 12:40:07 PM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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